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Old 10-04-07, 08:25 AM   #1
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Unhappy 8500 GT - X won't start up with nvidia enabled!

Hello!

I installed the newest driver with envy on Kubuntu 7.10 Beta. (the same problem also comes up in feisty!)
but the Xserver won't start with it. (monitor goes standby and pc reboots after a few seconds)
with the NV driver i have no problems.
I'm trying to solve that problem for a week now. i have no idea what the problem is, because the NV and VESA drivers both work fine.

this are the last lines of my Xorg.0.log:

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(II) Setting vga for screen 0.
(**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
(==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "NoLogo" "True"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "ConnectedMonitor" "CRT"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "NoPowerConnectorCheck" "false"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "UseDisplayDevice" "CRT"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration
(**) NVIDIA(0): ConnectedMonitor string: "CRT"
(II) NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions is
(II) NVIDIA(0): enabled.
and thats it. for more see my bug report. it would be fine if someone could tell me how to fix it or at least what the problem is.

thank you.
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Old 10-04-07, 12:13 PM   #2
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Default Re: 8500 GT - X won't start up with nvidia enabled!

The problem appears to be here:
PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #3:2000000@fe000000 for 0000:05:00.0

That PCI address if your graphics card. This is not an NVIDIA driver bug. This is caused by either a kernel or motherboard BIOS bug.

Have you verified that you're using the latest motherboard BIOS?
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Old 10-04-07, 04:48 PM   #3
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Default Re: 8500 GT - X won't start up with nvidia enabled!

hi netllama!

thank you for your (little bit standard but ok) answer.
i have the newest bios.
i think its a nvidia driver bug! because the same message is shown in the log with NV and VESA, too.
i can post a log if you want. but i am really sure thats another thing.

btw is it normal that the video bios version isn't shown in the bug report?
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Old 10-04-07, 04:51 PM   #4
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Default Re: 8500 GT - X won't start up with nvidia enabled!

I'd expect the same error to appear with any X driver, as the error isn't coming from the X driver.

Just because you have the latest BIOS doesn't mean that the bug isn't in the BIOS.

As I noted earlier, this is not an NVIDIA driver bug. You need to work with Biostar and whomever builds your kernel to eliminate that error.
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Old 10-04-07, 05:03 PM   #5
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Default Re: 8500 GT - X won't start up with nvidia enabled!

how do you know that?
please explain me why nvidia has problems on start and nv and vesa don't.
i dont understand that.
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Old 10-04-07, 05:07 PM   #6
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Default Re: 8500 GT - X won't start up with nvidia enabled!

Neither the nv and especially the vesa X driver make any real use of the hardware, including DMA.

Its quite possible that there is an NVIDIA driver bug lurking behind your system's inability to allocate mem resources for the graphics card, however until you can resolve that problem, there's no way to investigate this further.
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Old 10-04-07, 05:15 PM   #7
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Default Re: 8500 GT - X won't start up with nvidia enabled!

i have no chance to fix it, if it is a bios-bug. because biostar dont support linux.

i mean you are a developer of that thing or not? if yes you could see what the driver does and what does the crash or not? and maybe you could make a patch or a fix or whatever.

changing my hardware for that is the last thing i would do.
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Old 10-04-07, 07:12 PM   #8
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Default Re: 8500 GT - X won't start up with nvidia enabled!

It won't help you probably, but I wanted to show you that this really seems to be a Biostar's issue:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=96955

You might want to play around with kernel boot parameters such as: noapic acpi=off pci=nomsi irqpoll pci=routeirq.
Just don't try all of them at once :-)
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Old 10-10-07, 03:49 PM   #9
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Default Re: 8500 GT - X won't start up with nvidia enabled!

the boot parameters did't help. what can i do now? is the only solution to buy a new board?
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Old 10-10-07, 03:54 PM   #10
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The only real solution is to fix the BIOS on the motherboard. Anything else is a workaround.
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Old 10-11-07, 11:20 AM   #11
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Default Re: 8500 GT - X won't start up with nvidia enabled!

do you know what the problem is with the bios and what would fix it? i would modify it myself if you say me what the problem is.

is there no way to get a workaround in the driver itself? maybe a patch or something for users who have that prob. sorry if i asked that before.

on the one hand im frustrated with that linux-thing and happy with my windows. on the other hand i want to fix it.

are you getting money just for being in the forum netllama?
are you a developer or do you have direct contact to them?

thank you my friend.
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Old 03-30-08, 01:14 PM   #12
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Default Re: 8500 GT - X won't start up with nvidia enabled!

I've the same problem here. take a look at this. hope it helps.
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=110088
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