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Old 06-13-08, 04:45 PM   #61
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Wrong, u can use Transparency AA for the foliage and vegetation just fine and it'll look great. Then why ppl wanna use real AA is because it makes the game look alot better. And also the EdgeAA in crysis doesn't look good imo, it makes stuff blurred and kinda fat-looking.


Now, i find this information very interesting. It seems that one GTX 280 just have 8 FPS lower than two 9800Gx2's in Quad-SLI in crysis at Veryhigh in 1920x1200, that's pretty sick! Imagine those in SLI or even 3-way SLI, OMG!

I base this on this Quad-SLI crysis benchmark over here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXlR-Sjwg4w

44 FPS average with the Gx2's and 36 FPS with a single GTX 280, that's great! Soon we can max out crysis
Yeah but Crysis doesn't support TSAA atm. You have to do tricky things like force it in the driver and then pull out the pistol.
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Old 06-13-08, 05:02 PM   #62
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Default Re: GTX280 CRYSIS 1920*1200 VH Average FPS Reached to 36.81!

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Yeah but Crysis doesn't support TSAA atm. You have to do tricky things like force it in the driver and then pull out the pistol.
Its supported, but doesn't work properly. If you do a few more trixy things u can actually have TSAA for all weapons


But the interesting thing here is that a single GTX 280 only get 8 fps less than a Quad-SLI system witch is the today fastest u can get.
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Old 06-13-08, 05:16 PM   #63
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@36.81
My 8800gt doesn't get that much with stock cvars @ 800x600

I think Its a good score.
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what happened to the "free" anti alliasing these G200 cards where supposed to provide? i thought you where supposed to be able to use 4xAA with little to no performance loss ...
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Old 06-14-08, 11:51 AM   #66
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Does anyone else think the Crysis numbers are a bit fishy? I mean, I want to believe it but I'm having trouble believing my GTX can pull 37.4 fps at 1680 x 1050 with 4xAA and 16xAF.
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Mine can do 26 at 4xAA, 1680x1050. Those numbers do look fishy...
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those crysis numbers sure do seem fishy. I wonder what settings were used in benchmarking. I have to tweak crysis quite extensively in order to get it to perform at that level on an 8800GTX. I'd be interested to see some other reviews using a default install on very high settings in dx10.
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Does anyone else think the Crysis numbers are a bit fishy? I mean, I want to believe it but I'm having trouble believing my GTX can pull 37.4 fps at 1680 x 1050 with 4xAA and 16xAF.
They can optmize their systems decent but I would agree that is a big stretch. I got just above 30 FPS with GTX SLI at 1920 x 1200 so I don't see how that is overly possible. I'm going to do a bench right now on my rig with a single card at those settings and see what I get.

EDIT: 18.72 fps on high settings, 16 x 12 with 4x AA / 16x AF. Going to try low settings and see if I can even get 38 fps out of it.
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people forget. yes it may have only a little
faster numbers than the 9800gx2 but the 9800gx2 does have
microstuddering. so ya the FPS is within 1-5FPS of each other but the real in
game feel is more like 15FPS off. and at higher resolutions and AA settings
the lead only grows. not to mention the drivers that will be coming out.


and yes a 4850 crossfire will give similar FPS to the GTX 280 but then your
limited to a X38 or X48 (maybe P45) chipset, you have microstuddering so
again the GTX280 will run smoother and faster you have to deal with crossfire
which IS NOT supported in all games and has some issues in other with
glitches and artifacting, also some review still show crossfire in windows XP
to yield low gains in games like crysis. the powerconsumption should be similar
but the 4850's may be a tad more hunger, also heat goes back into your case
with the 4850 stock cooler so that becomes an issue.


the 4850's also do not have the features of the CUDA platform so you get no
Ageia Physics support and lower support for other programs like video editing
software and such. Crossfire and SLI are just not ideal solutions and when you
can get similar performance from a SINGLE card as well more features.


the way i see it the GTX 280 is being downplayed by the success of the
9800gx2 when the 8800gtx came out it was fantastic because the 7950gx2
was a bad card and drivers were poor
. but Nivida did things allot better
withthe 9800gx2 and now that the GTX 280 ONLY has 100% more
performance than the 8800gtx people are getting down at it?? looks to be a
good card to me. another thing to remember is that most of these sites still
use 3GHz Core 2 Duo's or 3.2GHZ Quads (max) and some still even use
PCI-Express 1.1 mobo's. that's not fast enough and both the CPU and mobo
will bottle neck the GPU and most resolutions. but put a 3.8GHZ or higher
qaud with it and it will FLY
.


Source: xtremesystems

nor only i agree with what this man claims,

but also i share the same feeling about it... nice speech!
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They can optmize their systems decent but I would agree that is a big stretch. I got just above 30 FPS with GTX SLI at 1920 x 1200 so I don't see how that is overly possible. I'm going to do a bench right now on my rig with a single card at those settings and see what I get.
Yea, just popped open Crysis and for some reason FRAPs nor print screen was working and before you ask I have 2.9.4 or latest.

1680 x 1050 Very High 4xAA/0xAF - 13 - 17 FPS on the beach of the first level

1680 x 1050 Very High 0xAA/0xAF - 18 - 20 FPS ""

1680 x 1050 Very High (Shaders High) 0xAA/16xAF - 24 - 27

1680 x 1050 Very High (Shaders High) 0xAA/16xAF w/ Edge AA @ 22 - 26
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Those Crysis benches look like Dx9 with most settings at High only. That's the only way those older cards would be getting those frames at the resolution and AA/AF levels they used.
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