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Old 06-19-08, 07:37 PM   #73
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Default Re: Official "I just got my GeForce GTX 280 or GTX 260" thread

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ati $200 gpu outscores gtx 260 ;/
Something must be wrong with those numbers... 260 GTX is faster than 9800GTX...
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Old 06-19-08, 08:06 PM   #74
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Default Re: Official "I just got my GeForce GTX 280 or GTX 260" thread

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ati $200 gpu outscores gtx 260 ;/
In one bench according to AT.

FS has a preview up of the HD 4850 too and they have it losing in Bioshock to the 9800GTX at every resolution-

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...gtx+/page7.asp

According to Anandtech it "outscores" the GTX 260 in Bioshock. It does not in; Crysis, CoD4, Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, Assassin's Creed, Oblivion, and TheWitcher.

Like always sometimes Crossfire looks great and when AFR fails, it fails badly.

Little scaling-


Bad to no scaling-




If I had my heart set on Multi-GPU it would be two 8800GTS 512Mb cards. They are over at newegg for 160usd with rebate each. nVidia uses more than one form of AFR and consequentially SLi will likely work more often in titles than Crossfire.

I've used Multi-GPU, SLi and Crossfire. I vastly prefer a single strong GPU and to each their own on that matter.

For a card to be "faster" in my book it needs to win more than it loses. For it to be a winner on another level, it also needs to offer up consistent performance.

I do think the HD 4850 looks like a darn good card considering the price, and I wouldn't bother with Crossfire personally. I've already outlined a few reasons why not and may add; micro stutter, poor min FPS and wild FPS fluctuations.
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Old 06-19-08, 10:51 PM   #75
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Default Re: Official "I just got my GeForce GTX 280 or GTX 260" thread

Here's a couple of quick grabs from the Crysis demo in foliage.

All high DX9 @ 1680x 8xAF 52FPS
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6...allhightm1.jpg

All high DX9 @ 1680x 4xAA|8xAF 34FPS
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5...4aahighwf2.jpg

TRL Croft Manor pool room with next gen+AA 90FPS. I got 46 there with my old 8800GTX-
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/384...xtgenaaov7.jpg

Crysis all very high with 8xAF was mid 20s. So not very hot. 26FPS was typical with dips to 23. There wasn't a lot of variation at all.

DiRT caps in a bit. Every game I've tried so far has been smooth. No hitching or hard FPS crashes/drops.

Here's DiRT, 1680x 4xAA|8xAF. I did all Ultra and then all High. Besides FPS differences I could really tell in game.

Ultra- shows 41-57 on tracks 1 and 3.

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2...tdemou1zl4.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8...tdemou2vh9.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/1...tdemou3gx8.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6...tdemou4mo9.jpg
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/7691/dirtdemou5ir2.jpg
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/6250/dirtdemou6os6.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3...demou6aqg0.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6...demou7ahj6.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1...demou8aav8.jpg
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/893...demou9apj1.jpg

High- shows 55-78FPS on tracks 1 and 3.
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/840...demoh11le3.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6...tdemoh1qg7.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4...tdemoh2qw9.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5...tdemoh3bz4.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9...tdemoh4vw6.jpg
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/9168/dirtdemoh7zb4.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/61/dirtdemoh8ka0.jpg
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/2993/dirtdemoh9ir8.jpg
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/834...2008h10dt3.jpg

All Ultra use to murder my 8800GTX @ 1680x with 4xAA.

EDIT:

The WiC bench 1680x-

Very high
min 26 avg 47 max 94
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4456/wicvhgm2.jpg

High
min 29 avg 61 max 137
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5959/wichlb2.jpg

Medium
min 52 avg 95 max 220
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3497/wicmyq0.jpg

I tried the Crysis bench will all very high at 1680x and the last loop reported avg 27FPS. The first loop was avg 22FPS.

No chop and no stutter with the GTX 280 on any tests.
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Old 06-20-08, 01:19 AM   #76
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It seems like my 3DMark 06 scores go DOWN when I bump up the clock speeds. WTF
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Old 06-20-08, 01:23 AM   #77
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It seems like my 3DMark 06 scores go DOWN when I bump up the clock speeds. WTF
Maybe because the card is getting hotter? People have reported 100+ temps.
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Old 06-20-08, 05:46 AM   #78
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OK

I just received my EVGA GTX280 SC. This is how the swap went.

1. Uninstalled Drivers
2. Uninstalled AGEIA PHxyX Driver
3. Shutdown
4. Took out my EVGA 9800 GX2 SSC (only had it a week and its going back for the 280 i just got)
5. Installed my new EVGA GTX280 SC
6. Booted up windows, Installed new 177.35 Vista 64 & installed new Nvidia PhysX driver

All i can say is OMFG what a difference this card has made in Crysis (Only tryed this so far)

When i had the 9800 GX2 installed, Crysis would stutter and freeze badly, game was unplayable (in high settings at 1920x1200 no AA)

Now i can play exact same settings as smooth as silk.

Also the heat output from the 280 is no where near as bad as the GX2 was. The GX2 would heatup the sides of my case (Lian-Li V2000) badly, the 280 is alot cooler.

I would definatly recommend this product to all.

This is a 100% Kickass product
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/facepalm....whats with the chinease flag?
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Maybe because the card is getting hotter? People have reported 100+ temps.
I was monitoring mine and it never got hotter than 84C. I'm not sure why the 3DMark scores went down Strange.
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guess that cooling isnt properly seated on gpu, thats why so big temps.
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guess that cooling isnt properly seated on gpu, thats why so big temps.
84C isn't bad for being under full load. That shouldn't be hot enough for the card to throttle back. I think that threshold is over 100C range somewhere. I'll try the benchmark again with the fan at 100% just to make sure it's not the temps that are causing the lower scores.
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Temp was 64C max with fan at 100%. The score was just a couple hundred points lower still. I bumped the FTW clocks up to 702/1500/1300. *Shrug* I guess I'll just leave it running at stock speeds than
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looking at the other thread...it seems these cards are going to be like the 7900gtx -.-...
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