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Old 06-22-08, 11:46 PM   #25
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Default Re: Will Radeon HD 4870 turn up the heat on the GTX 280?

Give it a week or two after release, if it takes that long, and there will likely be 4870's on the market with 1GB GDDR5. Those are the ones I'm waiting to see before deciding for sure on a purchase.
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Old 06-22-08, 11:47 PM   #26
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I think pizza is more on about the micro stuttering issues and some non-scaling performance of GX2 or even SLI or CF systems

Don't get me wrong,i know that microstuttering does happen in a few games here and there,and some do notice it,while others don't,and the same goes for the variable scaling issues that plague all Multi GPU setups,at least up to now,and i don't deny that when comparing single GPU versus single GPU,the GTX280 rocks despite it's price.


But when other factors are considered,such as the agressive price shifts that Nvidia were forced to do once the HD4850 was released and Nvidia has been marketing SLI for a few years now as the ultimate in gaming experience/performance and with now very good cards on the market for 200$ a piece,and depending on individual users current motherboard(SLI capable or not),the situation is a lot more murky and not as clear cut as Nvidia would like i'm sure.


If that wasn't enough,we now have the HD4870 wich if the rumors are true and it really does perform at about the same level as a GTX260 but costs 100$ less,and the GTX 280 only outruns an HD4870 by only 15% best case,but costs 350$ more,it's just another big factor that can rain on the GTX280's parade,an i'm not even talking about the HD4870 X2 card that can be quite a bit faster than the GTX280,based on the HD4870 numbers and using the usual 60~70% higher scaling from 1 to 2 GPU's in terms of overall performance.
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Old 06-23-08, 12:05 AM   #27
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Don't get me wrong,i know that microstuttering does happen in a few games here and there,and some do notice it,while others don't,and the same goes for the variable scaling issues that plague all Multi GPU setups,at least up to now,and i don't deny that when comparing single GPU versus single GPU,the GTX280 rocks despite it's price.


But when other factors are considered,such as the agressive price shifts that Nvidia were forced to do once the HD4850 was released and Nvidia has been marketing SLI for a few years now as the ultimate in gaming experience/performance and with now very good cards on the market for 200$ a piece,and depending on individual users current motherboard(SLI capable or not),the situation is a lot more murky and not as clear cut as Nvidia would like i'm sure.


If that wasn't enough,we now have the HD4870 wich if the rumors are true and it really does perform at about the same level as a GTX260 but costs 100$ less,and the GTX 280 only outruns an HD4870 by only 15% best case,but costs 350$ more,it's just another big factor that can rain on the GTX280's parade,an i'm not even talking about the HD4870 X2 card that can be quite a bit faster than the GTX280,based on the HD4870 numbers and using the usual 60~70% higher scaling from 1 to 2 GPU's in terms of overall performance.
What ever the case, I would prefer a single card solution to negate multi GPU problems and I think that is what pizza is on about nevermind the peak FPS etc. Never also mind the min fps if it is high but, what we should get is the data like we did from FEAR's inbuilt demo, the percentage breakdown of the fps, times below 30 fps, below 45 fps and above 45fps etc :0 That would prove decisive info IMHO.

Watching this space with NV's and ATIs new offerings with regards to this
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I don't mind going back to ATi cards (AMD) again. I certainly liked the ATi 9800 card when it first came out. However, I'm concerned about the poor Crossfire support I keep hearing about. Be it 4870 CF or 4870X2, I'm thinking that the crossfire support will be lacking something. Guess we will see.

Frankly, having a X38 motherboard myself, I would like to make use of the Crossfire support at some point.
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Old 06-23-08, 12:22 AM   #29
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I don't know about you,but the minimum frame rate in that very chart with regards to the GTX280 doesn't look too hot to me,despite having a 512 bit memory bus and 1 GB of ram.
While 16fps isn't flying, it's still a 60% increase in performance over the GX2. That's a pretty big oversight on your part.

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That 4870 is looking good. I have to run my card overclocked to do 45 FPS in Crysis all high @ 1680x. That's from the old demo though. The patched game may be faster.

I'll be looking at all the reviews closely. I may switch. Thing is I am about to bump up to 1920x on a DoubleSight DS-263N. This week will be interesting.
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Old 06-23-08, 02:28 AM   #31
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It will not come that close , but possibly will still force nvidia to lower their prices.
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RAdeon 4870 will probably force a GTX260 price drop soon but people that want to buy a GTX280 may want to wait until 4870X2 comes out.
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You don't even need a 4870, the 4850 will do just fine. Check out this review at OCC:

http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...r_hd4850/7.htm

I'm seriously thinking about selling my 9600GT's, MSI mobo and buying 2 HD48xx and an x48/P35/P45/P43/CrossfireX supported motherboard.
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RAdeon 4870 will probably force a GTX260 price drop soon but people that want to buy a GTX280 may want to wait until 4870X2 comes out.
The 4870X2 will be a XF solution which means all the dual card issues & performance troubles.
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we'll just have to wait til Tuesday for the official benchmarks but things are looking promising
http://www.bilgiustam.com/512mb-ati-...2006-testleri/

It's a comparison to a 9800GX2 but it still looks good.
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http://www.bilgiustam.com/512mb-ati-...2006-testleri/

It's a comparison to a 9800GX2 but it still looks good.
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