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Old 06-24-08, 03:22 AM   #73
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Default Re: Will Radeon HD 4870 turn up the heat on the GTX 280?

First 4870 review by the chinese.Its seems to be beating the GTX260 most of the times by 5-30%.
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Old 06-24-08, 04:45 AM   #74
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Wow, around 10-20% slower in general than the GTX280, and faster in a couple of tests. That's great performance for it's price...
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Old 06-24-08, 06:46 AM   #75
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That translation didn't work for me, here's a fixed one:

http://translate.google.com/translat...sl=zh-CN&tl=en

Makes it a lot easier to navigate to whatever page.

Still reading...

Ok, first up, looks like the memory overclocks well, they got it up the the ATI CP max of 1100MHz, that's 4.4Ghz effective, and effective 800MHz overclock. Who knows how far the core will go past 790, I wouldn't want to push it without some software to speed up the fan myself.

As for its performance, let's just call it a GTX 270. Awesome!
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Old 06-24-08, 06:55 AM   #76
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Great, great numbers. It beats the GTX 260 in almost every test (all except Lost Planet and FEAR), and sometimes even the GTX 280 when using high AA & AF at 1920x1200 (HL2 and Bioshock for example).

Even in Crysis it beats the 896 mb GTX 260, and they just tested the 512 Mb 4870!!! (I want to see the 1 Gb version tested under Crysis)

Conclusion: about 20-25% faster than 4850, 5-10% faster than GTX 260, 10-15% slower than GTX 280. I say: IMPRESSIVE!!!

I will wait for more benchs, but I think I'm turning red this time
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Old 06-24-08, 06:57 AM   #77
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LOL, forget it.
Wow.
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Not bad! a ~10% avarage difference to the 280 .. i wonder if the 1GB version can do any better.
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it might, but i still believe gtx280 is better deal, mostly because of cuda
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it might, but i still believe gtx280 is better deal, mostly because of cuda
Wait, you mean the word deal hasn't been outlawed from sentences where GTX 280 is the subject? I've lost faith in society.

4870 is under half the price. Can't say I'm thinking about CUDA when looking at those benchmarks and comparing the prices...
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it might, but i still believe gtx280 is better deal, mostly because of cuda
I really fail to see how cuda could be such a big deal. ATi is working with Havok, Nvidia has physX, ATi has a folding client for the GPU and nvidia has a folding client for the GPU, so they match each other in almost every way.
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don't care about folding or physx

hd video encoding has huge potential

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it might, but i still believe gtx280 is better deal, mostly because of cuda
Cuda is a bit different than ATI's CTM (Close To Metal). Interesting read.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070219-8878.html

Inpart:

"Clearly, there are advantages and disadvantages to both approaches, and both approaches ultimately represent attempts by NVIDIA and AMD/ATI to get people who need this sort of GPU-driven math coprocessing power to standardize on one or the other vendor's hardware. Both of these moves are also about building an application base around existing GPU hardware before Intel moves into the market with whatever it's planning to unleash, so that Chipzilla (ideally) finds that the existing customers for GPUs-as-coprocessors are already tied to either AMD/ATI or NVIDIA."
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Had completely forgotten about that, but even though it looks nice I'm more interested in decoding rather than encoding and of course lossless audio. ATi is already probably designing their own encoding tool as we write, so just give it some time.
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