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Old 06-26-08, 10:33 AM   #157
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Default Re: Will Radeon HD 4870 turn up the heat on the GTX 280?

I have decided to wait 60 days,as the current cards from Nvidia,are not worth the asking price,IMHO.I do expect a price drop on both models of the GTX 2XX series to come soon.

NVDA,price the GTX280 @ 499 USD and I would buy one this weekend.As well,if the GTX260 was say @ 329 stock,to 359 USD for OC models,then I'd buy one right away.

For the first time in 4+ years I am seriously considering a ATI purchase.To be more specific,the 4870 series.When the 1Gb models start arriving,if NV has not taken steps to cut pricing by at least 15% across the board on the new 1.4 Billion tran monster,then I may go with the competition this round !

Unlikely (as I am a long time NVDA stock holder) but you never know.I applaud what the engineers at NV have done with this chip,its an amazing piece of tech,no doubt,but a tad too expensive given its performance relative to AMD/ATI's currently new offerings.Hopefully drivers will change this.Weeks ago,I was going to purchase a 280 right of the bat,as soon as they hit NCIX shelves,but I am back into collecting Anime dvd's these days,rather then gaming on the PC.Throw in my recent PS3 purchase...

Add in the fact I hardly game nowadays at all on the PC,and well....
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Old 06-26-08, 10:53 AM   #158
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You may recall a recent article on Nvidia's offer to ATI. Nvidia gave ATI the opportunity to use PhysX if they took up CUDA. Well, the result from this offer has been agreed! ATI have decided to go with Nvidia; this is not a huge surprise as ATI could have been out of a job if it didn't take up PhysX. Nvidia could easily force it upon game developers.

You may also remember ATI showing off its R600 GPUs with a demo of falling bricks. This was designed to discourage Ageia. They claimed that the R600s could process physics better than the PhysX card itself. Now that Nvidia can run PhysX on CUDA, ATI should be able to do the same. Both sides need to work and improve this complex piece of code.

The Big Lime Greens will surely be the first with PhysX on their graphic drivers, but we are sure ATI will follow soon enough. ATI does have a good position at the moment; they have now joined with Nvidia's PhysX and Intel's Havok, a WIN-WIN situation.
Wow! If that's true that's a pretty big deal. If both AMD and Nvidia use CUDA that puts them in a pretty strong position against Intel since by the time Intel shows GPU accelerated apps CUDA should have a pretty strong hold on the market in that sector.

This is total speculation, but maybe, with the impending entrance of Intel into the GPU market we'll see an AMD/Nvidia teamup somehow? Things are going to be interesting in the not to distant future. One thing's for sure, Nvidia is going to have to do something, otherwise it will be facing off against two companies with potentially strong GPU/CPU offerings versus Nvidia's GPU only offering.
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LOL, looky here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvi...-ati,5764.html

ATI's cards are better at cheating in physx than nvidias.
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Old 06-26-08, 03:18 PM   #160
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You may recall a recent article on Nvidia's offer to ATI. Nvidia gave ATI the opportunity to use PhysX if they took up CUDA. Well, the result from this offer has been agreed! ATI have decided to go with Nvidia; this is not a huge surprise as ATI could have been out of a job if it didn't take up PhysX. Nvidia could easily force it upon game developers.

You may also remember ATI showing off its R600 GPUs with a demo of falling bricks. This was designed to discourage Ageia. They claimed that the R600s could process physics better than the PhysX card itself. Now that Nvidia can run PhysX on CUDA, ATI should be able to do the same. Both sides need to work and improve this complex piece of code.

The Big Lime Greens will surely be the first with PhysX on their graphic drivers, but we are sure ATI will follow soon enough. ATI does have a good position at the moment; they have now joined with Nvidia's PhysX and Intel's Havok, a WIN-WIN situation.
Wow that is truely great news, not only will it mean faster adoption of physx but CUDA as well. And it means there won't be a long drawn out battle to create a standard. I never thought I would see ATi agree to a nVidia API, but I am happy to see that they have.
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Wow that is truely great news, not only will it mean faster adoption of physx but CUDA as well. And it means there won't be a long drawn out battle to create a standard. I never thought I would see ATi agree to a nVidia API, but I am happy to see that they have.
CUDA and Physx were big reasons I wanted to stick with Nvidia, but if this turns out to be true I might just end up going AMD.

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That's awesome. Maybe this guy could help the g80 guys out a little bit since Nvidia's holding out on us.
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CUDA and Physx were big reasons I wanted to stick with Nvidia, but if this turns out to be true I might just end up going AMD.



That's awesome. Maybe this guy could help the g80 guys out a little bit since Nvidia's holding out on us.


Nvidia PhysX runs on AMD Radeon 3870, scores 22,000 CPU marks in Vantage

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/38137/135/
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I bet it wont be for a very long time.
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