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Old 07-05-08, 10:22 PM   #13
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Your Athlon X2 4400+ is really going to hold that GTX 260 back. You really need a Core2 3.0GHz or better to see the potential of a GTX 260 or Radeon HD 4870. That's why reviewers test the cards with high-end CPUs. It's almost a waste of money to get a GTX 260 with your CPU.
Yeah if I go to get Intel motherboard with Q9450 and 8GB DDR2 now and sold my Athlon 64 X2 hardware on ebay for around 50 then it will be a complete waste of money when Nehalem is just 3 months away, it just do not make sense to get one now. Better wait for Nehalem, it will be worth the upgrade and value for money.

It great to have GTX 260 installed now when my system drew 101W idle compared to 148W idle with 8800GTX, meaning almost 50W power saving translated into 3.50 off on electricity bill every month or 42 for a year off.
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Old 07-05-08, 11:46 PM   #14
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...The small print say that 525W is based on PC configuration with Core 2 Quad Extreme QX9650 CPU so I really dont worry too much about that as I use dual core Athlon 64 X2 4400+ CPU which used 101W at idle and 250W at full load with GTX 260. Same thing goes with 4870, you really dont need 620W PSU for that with my CPU.
A QX9650 draws LESS power than an X2 4400+ CPU.
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How come you returned your 4870?
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Old 07-06-08, 02:34 AM   #16
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Yeah if I go to get Intel motherboard with Q9450 and 8GB DDR2 now and sold my Athlon 64 X2 hardware on ebay for around 50 then it will be a complete waste of money when Nehalem is just 3 months away, it just do not make sense to get one now. Better wait for Nehalem, it will be worth the upgrade and value for money.

It great to have GTX 260 installed now when my system drew 101W idle compared to 148W idle with 8800GTX, meaning almost 50W power saving translated into 3.50 off on electricity bill every month or 42 for a year off.
Athlon get the GTX 260 and benchmark for me PLEASE. I've been thinking about getting one as well and I want to see how it really performs on my cpu. I want to know how much cpu limiting would occur. If its only like 5 fps then who cares.
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Old 07-06-08, 02:52 AM   #17
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Default Re: BFG GTX 260 OC or BFG GTX 280?

Running mine off a 400 watt and no problems
Also ran an 8800 GTX for a year off the same psu and everything was fine. I personally fell minimum spec requirments for graphic cards are grossly inflated.
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Old 07-06-08, 04:02 PM   #18
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They have to account for a margin of safety. Not all PSU's are created equal. Its mostly about how many AMPS your PSU makes not WATTS... however no one looks at amps. Thus parts companies need to go off of Watts, which is all fine and good but like I said the AMPS created aren't always going to be equal even if the watts are.

Simply put, a 500W PSU with a good amp to watt ratio can and probably will run a card with a minimum 650W PSU requirement... however if they stated 500W as the "minimum" you would get a lot of people with lower performing PSUs blowing their cards, then bingo they get stuck with thousands of RMAs.

Think about that.
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Old 07-07-08, 11:56 PM   #19
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Default Re: BFG GTX 260 OC or BFG GTX 280?

Questions i have about the GTX 260.

1)How about the sound ?

Have read reports somewhere that the GTX280 fans are too loud .. how about the geforceGTX260 ? aside from speed also looking a quiet video card.

2)Do i need a special cable/adapter for my PSU for the GTX260? Which brand?

my PSU its CORSAIR HX620
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Old 07-08-08, 12:10 AM   #20
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Questions i have about the GTX 260.

1)How about the sound ?

Have read reports somewhere that the GTX280 fans are too loud .. how about the geforceGTX260 ? aside from speed also looking a quiet video card.

2)Do i need a special cable/adapter for my PSU for the GTX260? Which brand?

my PSU its CORSAIR HX620
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...ly-review.html
A single GTX 280 under load isn't that loud. If you are a noise freak it might be a problem but a single GTX 280 isn't that much different than the single 9800 GX2. SLI is a different story. Three of these suckers running at 100% are very loud and hot!

I think the GTX 260 uses to 6 pin PCI-E plugs, so you should be ok.
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Old 07-08-08, 02:28 AM   #21
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A QX9650 draws LESS power than an X2 4400+ CPU.
Yeah but not much difference.

QX9650 drew 21.2W vs Toledo 2.4GHz's 24W, 3W less power idle.



And QX9650 drew 64.8W vs Toledo 2.4GHz's 86W, 21.2W less power at full load.



http://www.lostcircuits.com/cpu/amd_phenom9350/6.shtml

Nehalem will have 30% less power than Yorkfield at the same clock speed.
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How come you returned your 4870?
I returned it because I experienced bad fps in games, it either bad card or bad driver. Been cleaned out drivers and cleaned installed Vista both didnt helped.
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Athlon get the GTX 260 and benchmark for me PLEASE. I've been thinking about getting one as well and I want to see how it really performs on my cpu. I want to know how much cpu limiting would occur. If its only like 5 fps then who cares.
Okay I am benchmark Crysis for you to compare my CPU with GTX 260 vs QX6800 with 4870 from Xbitlabs review here with same settings Xbitlabs used and measured min and avg fps recorded with fraps. At 1280x1024 they recorded 12fps min and 30fps avg, mine recorded 16fps min and 33-35fps avg.

Hope this help.
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Questions i have about the GTX 260.

1)How about the sound ?

Have read reports somewhere that the GTX280 fans are too loud .. how about the geforceGTX260 ? aside from speed also looking a quiet video card.

2)Do i need a special cable/adapter for my PSU for the GTX260? Which brand?

my PSU its CORSAIR HX620
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...ly-review.html
Since I got the card installed on last Saturday, it still sound like silent, way too quiet than both Sapphire 4870 and Gainward Geforce 8800GTX.

BFG GTX 260 OC use 2x 6pin PCIE plugs from your PSU will be fine, BFG bundled 2x 6pin PCIE adapter. I didnt used the adapter so I used 2x 6pin PCIE cables from my PSU.
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