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Old 09-12-02, 10:44 AM   #13
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This means that after Star Fox Adventures, there won't be anymore GameCube software from Rare. Whatever happens to Kameo, Perfect Dark 2, and Donkey Kong Racing is beyond us. Speculatively, I think Kameo will simply be released on Xbox. It will undoubtedly see some changes, but it looked on-track to be a great product. As for Perfect Dark 2, well this is something thought to be in development for over two years. It's not something Rare can just throw away or pawn off. It's a major project, and from what we understand Rare has to convince Nintendo to sell it to them. If Nintendo doesn't do that, Rare will probably have to go back and redesign a lot of the art and, probably, dialogue
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Finally, everyone wants to know if Rare will be fully owned by Microsoft. These details are yet to be uncovered, but given the scope of the deal, it's safe to assume that Rare will do whatever Microsoft wants it to do. And, I'm sure the company will quickly become the most recognized Xbox development house. It's by no means a small company.
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As a GameCube fan, I'm pretty disappointed. It probably means at least four or five AAA titles for GameCube will slip through the cracks to Xbox. But, as an owner of Xbox, I'm completely happy playing Rare's games there, too. Nintendo just needs to be sure to fill the gap and prove that it truly didn't need Rare's support. That's going to be the most difficult thing of all. Nintendo worshiped so much of what Rare did, so there are some very big shoes to fill.
more at www.rarenet.com

Apparently, if you do a patent search on Perfect Dark, it comes out as belonging to Rare, not Nintendo.
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Old 09-12-02, 11:22 AM   #14
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oh god
WTF is this site? some Rare fan site??? I thought your talking about the Rare's site: www.rare.net

I'll just quite other post coz im to lazy to write it myself:

"yea, its basically just saying what I said in a lot of words, people are under the assumption that Rare owns perfectdark..
remember that there is a difference between Rare and Rareware... Rareware is whom MS is buying, Rare Limited and all of its Franchises are all owned by Nintendo..
Nintendos licenses are as follows

Software Development etc.
(a) Nintendo Technology Development Inc.
(a) Nintendo Software Technology Corporation
(a) Rare Acquisition Inc.
(a) Rare Limited
(a) Rare Inc.
(a) Rare Toys & Games, Inc.
(b) A/N Software Inc.
(d) Rareware Limited
(d) Left Field Productions, Inc.
(d) Retro Studios, Inc.
(d) Silicon Knights Inc.
(d) iKuni Inc.
(e) Midway/Nintendo Inc.
Source: [link=http://www.nintendo.com/corp/] Nintendo Financial Statements 5/30/02


(a) Consolidated subsidiaries - This means Nintendo owns 100% of the company. These include NOA, NOE, etc.
(b) Non-consolidated subsidiary with equity method applied
(c) Non-consolidated subsidiary with equity method non-applied
(d) Affiliates with equity method applied
(e) Affiliates with equity method non-applied


Perfect Dark is owned by Rare Limited, not Rareware Limited
this means Perfect Dark is 100% Nintendos property.
Rare will go to MS with nothing but the shirts on thier back
Killer Instinct, PD, Kameo and such, all staying with Nintendo.."

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Old 09-12-02, 11:32 AM   #15
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Well I certainly don't buy any of that.

M$ wouldn't have paid $350 million for a company without it's most famous licenses.
If it did, they are really are fools.
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Old 09-12-02, 11:47 AM   #16
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M$ wouldn't have paid $350 million for a company without it's most famous licenses.
Its still a rumor, right?
nothing official
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Old 09-12-02, 11:50 AM   #17
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Yep, it's just a rumour

There are just a bit too many Rumours floating about at the moment, including M$ have bought a cable TV company, a PC Hardware Company, and the planet MARS.
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Old 09-12-02, 08:05 PM   #18
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not like Perfect Dark is a franchise anyway. there's ONE game. MS could easily make their own franchise. and the first Rare FPS game on GC is starting yet another "franchise" with Time Splitters(unless that uses characters from PD)
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http://www.planetgamecube.com/news.c...n=item&id=3396


"According to our sources inside Nintendo, Nintendo has officially sold its share of Rare to Microsoft. Last year, Nintendo had the opportunity to purchase the company, and refused. Rare put up the for sale sign and was looked at by both Microsoft and Activision. Microsoft won the bidding war, and Nintendo cut its ties with Rare. That’s what we do know.

Star Fox Adventures is still due out on September 23rd, but GBA titles like Sabre Wulf, Diddy Kong Pilot, Donkey Kong: Coconut Crackers, and Banjo Kazooie are still an unknown. We are assuming that at least 1 or 2 of these are already finished, and should be released by the end of the year, if not early next year.

This announcement is said to be made official at Microsoft’s X02 Europe event in Seville, Spain on September 24th. Ironically, it's the day after Nintendo ships Rare’s one and only GameCube title.

The following is an offical response from Nintendo of America on the Rare situation:

Although Nintendo doesn't comment on rumors or speculation by the media, we can tell you that Nintendo has made the decision not to request Rare to make any further exclusive games for the Nintendo GameCube. Although we're proud of our joint efforts with Rare over the years and have enjoyed our relationship with them, in fiscal year 2001, Rare accounted for only 9.5% of total Nintendo software revenue worldwide. In fiscal year 2002, that number declined to 1.5%. Therefore, in evaluating our investments in developers, as well as the financial benefits to Nintendo over the years, we've decided it's in Nintendo's best interests to focus on diversifying our portfolio of developers and projects.

Star Fox Adventures, which was jointly developed by Rare and Nintendo, will launch as scheduled on September 23rd and will remain exclusive to the Nintendo GameCube. Nintendo's other great franchise characters such as Donkey Kong also will remain exclusive to Nintendo.

We have no additional details to share on this issue at this time. Be sure to check out our official website (www.nintendo.com) for the latest information as it becomes available.
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Old 09-12-02, 11:42 PM   #20
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the only way Microsoft can make money off of consoles is to sell games for competitor's platforms
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