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Old 07-11-08, 03:11 PM   #13
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GTX260 for $329 is better deal then HD4870.


The GTX260 at $300 and the HD4870 at $300, the 4870 is the better deal. DX10.1 compliant, makes it more future proof. They're about equal in overall speed, with the 4870 edging the GTX260 in higher AA performance.
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Old 07-11-08, 03:33 PM   #14
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the RAMBUS lawsuits that the inquirer wrote about recently.
I am pretty sure that the entire business plan of RAMBUS revolves around copyright litigation...
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How can you compare 4800 series with almost two old years 8800?. It speaks of garbage ATI makes for the last three years. I don't care about Nvidia and ATI, i just get what's better.
GTX260 for $329 is better deal then HD4870. GTX280 has no competition right now. Just don't tell me HD4870 is faster then GTX260 in what? COD4 give me a break.
The 9800s offered next to nothing over the 8800s. That's how they compare.

Nobody is doubting the 280 being the top dog right now, but you are the only one here constantly bashing the 4800s for no reason.
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Old 07-11-08, 05:11 PM   #16
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The GTX260 at $300 and the HD4870 at $300, the 4870 is the better deal. DX10.1 compliant, makes it more future proof. They're about equal in overall speed, with the 4870 edging the GTX260 in higher AA performance.
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Old 07-11-08, 05:42 PM   #17
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The GTX260 at $300 and the HD4870 at $300, the 4870 is the better deal. DX10.1 compliant, makes it more future proof. They're about equal in overall speed, with the 4870 edging the GTX260 in higher AA performance.
dx10.1 plays no role in this, by the time dx10.1 games will be out, dx11 will be released
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Don't know if these have been posted here or not, but here read them if you guys haven't this
http://www.techreport.com/discussions.x/15096 and http://www.megagames.com/news/html/h...ornvidia.shtml
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Old 07-11-08, 06:10 PM   #19
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That Anandtech weblog is a day older as here was a news on Friday that AMD will have a huge setback in Q2 with $880m write off the value of ATI acquistion in Q2 2008 due to HD 4800 series not selling well as AMD expected because of summer's slow demand. After the value writedown, ATI is worth $3.02bn and AMD was worth $2.7bn when it hit 16 years low $4.60 on Friday since July 1992.

It seemed AMD are suffer more pains than Nvidia does.
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Old 07-11-08, 06:33 PM   #20
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Nvidia will survive these setbacks. They're large enough that they can dig themselves out of this hole. AMD, on the other hand, is not so lucky. Because the economy isn't doing so well, everything is going to hell for them. Even though they made a fabulous product and priced it well below Nvidia's offerings, it doesn't help that the economy sucks right now. If they continue like this though, they will eventually be profitable again.

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dx10.1 plays no role in this, by the time dx10.1 games will be out, dx11 will be released
Firstly, DX10.1 games are supposedly going to start trickling out in Q1 2009. DX11 is supposedly a Q4 2009 launch. If there was a delay for DX10.1 games to release, it's safe to assume there will be a delay for DX11 games as well. You're likely looking at a year of DX10.1 support before DX11 starts to catch on.

Also, when DX10.1 games come out in the next 6-9 months, GTX260 owners will still have a DX10.0 part. Not everyone upgrades every 6 months. With that said, if the GTX260 and HD4870 are the same price, my recommendation is still the HD4870 on the basis of comparable performance that scales better with higher AA levels, and DX10.1 support. I see no reason to recommend a GTX260 over a HD4870 at the same price range, at this time.
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I bought my 8800 GTX for $550. However, it was leaps and bounds ahead of my old 6800 GT, so I considered it worth the money. The GTX 280 is not quite as badass as the 8800 GTX was when it came out, and considering the 4870 as a fairly close contender, it's hard to justify a $600 card, when you can get about 80-90% of the thrills for half that.
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Who started this whole 600 dollar debockel?

I think it was Nvidia with greed.

Look back at the FX 9800 Pro Days. Both good cards but 9800 was better in pricing and beat out FX in a few games not all.

With prices as dirt cheap as they are for PC hardware, its good if they get cheaper for us.

One thing you don't see these days is white box gpu's like years back.

Also 8 years ago we had strange names in the business that were selling dirt cheap hardware like PC Chips and Soyo and even Idema which kep prices down cuz people were confused about what to buy kinda like that whole cheap game fiasco back in 1983 that killed games from Atari. Remember?

We don't have dirt cheap companies selling stuff with same chipsets and features for half the cost.

Like back in 2000, i saw a Geforce DDR from Hurculies Prophet for 249 at Babbeges and TIger had that bobs house brand Geforce DDR for 150 in the white box remember.

I don't mind paying for a 280 from Bobs house brand white box for half the cost as the nice shiny box one.
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Firstly, DX10.1 games are supposedly going to start trickling out in Q1 2009. DX11 is supposedly a Q4 2009 launch. If there was a delay for DX10.1 games to release, it's safe to assume there will be a delay for DX11 games as well. You're likely looking at a year of DX10.1 support before DX11 starts to catch on.

Also, when DX10.1 games come out in the next 6-9 months, GTX260 owners will still have a DX10.0 part. Not everyone upgrades every 6 months. With that said, if the GTX260 and HD4870 are the same price, my recommendation is still the HD4870 on the basis of comparable performance that scales better with higher AA levels, and DX10.1 support. I see no reason to recommend a GTX260 over a HD4870 at the same price range, at this time.
what's the difference between dx10 and 10.1 again? (legit question)
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