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Old 07-12-08, 01:16 PM   #13
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Think the 260 it maybe then or maybe the ATI card.
Is 2 GB of Ram still enough by the way?
go with GTX 260, and ram is very cheap, you can get 4gb for about 60 bucks.
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Old 07-12-08, 01:19 PM   #14
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Fair enough, is there any real benefits in terms of gaming features/performance in switching to vista?

I seem to remember Crysis being the last big game coming out before I stopped PC gaming which would only work in vista because of Direct X 10 support. Does XP's version of direct x support the latest games with all the feautures they same way vista does?

I tell you it wasn't that long ago and things have changed quite a bit since then
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Old 07-12-08, 01:25 PM   #15
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Yeah go with the GTX 260 over the HD 4870 even though it performs worse and cost the same.
Well thanks for that, didn't see your other post for some reason. Might check some benchmarks etc. Remember i'm only asking for a bit of advice
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Old 07-12-08, 01:25 PM   #16
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For real, lets clear the FUD.

The 4800s run AA much more efficiently than any Nvidia card currently. They take much less of a framerate hit when AA is enabled. They are a new design that is more efficient from the ground up. Nvidias 2-series is just a slight redesign of the 9800s which were just slightly different than the 8800s. Therefore, ATI with 512mb of RAM is not the same as Nvidias with 512mb. Nvidias architecture currently hits frame buffer limitations quicker than the Radeon 4800s.

Also, as far as the CUDA/PhysX support, it is in the works for ATI cards. Nvidia is currently supporting this venture also. ATI also a TON more shaders (800 unified vs the 192 for the GTX260 and the 240 for the GTX280) than any card on the market with the 4800 series. PhysX uses those shaders to run. It appears to me that the 4800s may be a pure beast with PhysX enabled due to having more horsepower to run them. That's purely speculation, because we have yet to see the CUDA ATI driver, but it's a damn good one.

Driver support is going to be key for the 4800 series. I believe they have a ton of untapped potential.
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Old 07-12-08, 01:27 PM   #17
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I would go with with 260 for the extra VMem and PhysX support.
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Old 07-12-08, 01:28 PM   #18
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I'd go with the 4870
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Old 07-12-08, 01:30 PM   #19
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Its not quite that simple. The shader architecture between Nvidia and Ati are wayyyyy different.
Shhhh, I know it's just me spreading the FUD the other direction.

People that are simple enough to think that more VRAM is better regardless of anything else due to it being a bigger number will probably also bite the hook on the shaders being better due to having more.
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Old 07-12-08, 01:30 PM   #20
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Old 07-12-08, 01:37 PM   #22
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The 4870 and the 260 are great cards! Just pick the one you think is best...you will hear from either side that one is better than the other. YOU have to make the choice and there will always be someone on a forum telling you... you made the wrong choice.

Don't worry to much about it, don't think you can go wrong either.
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Old 07-12-08, 01:39 PM   #23
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I agree if it plays at the resolution with the FPS and features you need or want at the price range you can afford then go for it no matter what brand.
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main reasons why i would recommend gtx260 over 4780 are: extra memory, driver, nhancer (best app to set game profiles), ability to set up seperate game profiles, cuda and physx
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