ByeBye GTX280, Hello 8800GTX - Page 3

**nekrosoft13** · 07-14-08, 10:58 PM

will 4870x2 sell for 550? if so i will grab GTX 280 for 419 soon, that is good enough

AthlonXP1800 · 07-14-08, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nekrosoft13

will 4870x2 sell for 550? if so i will grab GTX 280 for 419 soon, that is good enough

Yes 4870X2 will retail for $549.

**mullet** · 07-15-08, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AthlonXP1800

Yes 4870X2 will retail for $549.

no $499.00 1GB / $549.00 2GB.

nekrosoft13, good grief dude can you imagine the 4870x2 @ 1680x1050 what what ever AA & AF. JESUS

walterman · 07-15-08, 05:36 AM

Ha ha, nice operation Nekro

LordJuanlo · 07-15-08, 06:12 AM

If they allow you to return the card and get the money, you are one lucky man, and you can recover from the 'early adopter tax'. That card was heavily overpriced when it was released

**saturnotaku** · 07-15-08, 06:14 AM

TigerDirect can be really strict when it comes to returning opened products. Fortunately eVGA stuff is not on that list. It can be returned at any time within 30 days for a full refund, regardless of whether it was open or not.

**nekrosoft13** · 07-15-08, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mullet

no $499.00 1GB / $549.00 2GB.

nekrosoft13, good grief dude can you imagine the 4870x2 @ 1680x1050 what what ever AA & AF. JESUS

i don't want 1GB (512mb in reality), i need to see more info about 4870x2, so far it looks good in few high profile games, games that ATI probably took their sweet time to make sure their were perfect, there is a good chance rest might run slow, something like a single 4870.

but if i can grab GTX 280 for about 419 (449 - 30 rebate), that card will be more then enough. and still save $130 compared to 4870x2.

Heinz68 · 07-15-08, 07:02 AM

Nobody really knows what the MSRP on HD 4870x2 is going to be.
Many rumors suggest this pricing: $499.00 1GB / $549.00 2GB.
The rumors started when GTX 280 price was $650, now i believe the MSRP for the same card is $499 not counting the special sale prices,
The point is who knows if AMD might not rethink the strategy based on the above.

Looks to me if AMD has plenty off the cards we might see some price wars.
Even with recent NVIDIA problems it's still in much better financial position than AMD but AMD manufacturing cost is much lover on the above cards.
So the question is, can NVIDiA afford price war and still make money?
EDIT
The other question is, does AMD need to go in price war? The HD 4870 is still selling at the introduction price of about $300 and selling well.

hell_of_doom227 · 07-15-08, 07:33 AM

HD4870X2 will always depend on frequent drivers update. There will be always month of delay before ATI updates their drivers for new game, or maybe even two months to catch up with GTX280.

Knowing ATI, their drivers and CCC...don't think it's worth it. SLI scales and runs better, and you can always create new profile for your new game which for the most part gives you nice boost.

Quick420 · 07-15-08, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by nekrosoft13

i might, need to see more reports, benchmarks, so far only few games have been benchmarked. plus idle temps are insane.

or i still might get GTX 280, would be hard to say goodbye to nHancer

I was hoping you'd grab an 8800gt

Heinz68 · 07-15-08, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by hell_of_doom227

HD4870X2 will always depend on frequent drivers update. There will be always month of delay before ATI updates their drivers for new game, or maybe even two months to catch up with GTX280.

Knowing ATI, their drivers and CCC...don't think it's worth it. SLI scales and runs better, and you can always create new profile for your new game which for the most part gives you nice boost.

The ATI bad drivers argument is REPEATED by many who never had the ATI product and it's more about the past.
Now ATI has new drivers at least every month and from the real users there is no more complains than on the NVIDIA drivers.

Tr1cK · 07-15-08, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Heinz68

The ATI bad drivers argument is REPEATED by many who never had the ATI product and it's more about the past.
Now ATI has new drivers at least every month and from the real users there is no more complains than on the NVIDIA drivers.

The other argument is the CCC sux argument. They forget how NV went from the old control panel to the new one also. Thanks NV for removing the overclocking and temperature readings from their new driver sets. The button now sends you to download Ntune, which I would be fine with but for some reason my Nforce 650i board isn't compatible! LOL! The only bad thing about CCC is poor game profile implementation. ATT does a better job at it, kinda like Nhancer.

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Heinz68 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Toronto-CAN, Hamburg-DE, Prague-CZ Posts: 1,893	Re: ByeBye GTX280, Hello 8800GTX Nobody really knows what the MSRP on HD 4870x2 is going to be. Many rumors suggest this pricing: $499.00 1GB / $549.00 2GB. The rumors started when GTX 280 price was $650, now i believe the MSRP for the same card is $499 not counting the special sale prices, The point is who knows if AMD might not rethink the strategy based on the above. Looks to me if AMD has plenty off the cards we might see some price wars. Even with recent NVIDIA problems it's still in much better financial position than AMD but AMD manufacturing cost is much lover on the above cards. So the question is, can NVIDiA afford price war and still make money? EDIT The other question is, does AMD need to go in price war? The HD 4870 is still selling at the introduction price of about $300 and selling well. __________________ Stop The Meter On Your Internet Use ------------------------------------------------------------ Core i7 980X EE @ 4316 MHz 1.35V - Corsair Hydro Series H50 ASUS Rampage II Extreme - Corsair Dominator 1600MHz 12GB Triple-Channel Sapphire HD 6990 - ATI TV Wonder 650 PCIe Intel X25-M 160GB 34nm G2 SSD - Seagate Barracuda 1TB 32mb Cosmos S Case - Corsair HX1000W PSU Pioner Blu-ray Burner 6X BD-R - Westinghouse LVM-37w3, 37inch 1080p Logitech G25 Racing Wheel - Logitech Cordless RumblePad 2 Sennheiser RS 180 - Windows 7 64-bit Pro

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