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Old 08-17-03, 03:36 AM   #1
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Default X unstable with 44.96

Hi guys!

I've upgraded to 44.96, but this has made X on my machine highly unstable. The problem looks like this:

I start the machine, X starts up with gdm. I log in and work for 2 minutes, e.g. Mozilla or Mathematica, click a bit, then X freezes, no Ctrl-Alt-Delete no Control-Alt-Backspace will work any more. Even the clock freezes, but the mouse cursor still moves.

So I log in from a remote terminal, usually do a killall -9 X, then X restarts and FROM THEN ON it's usually stable.

Same happens with me using IceWM and my sister using GNOME.

The problem only become that apparent (crash usually once or twice a day) since the upgrade to 44.96. The XF86Config config file is still the same.

I'm using kernel 2.4.19, which has been very stable.

After the crash, I rescue all the log files via the remote terminal. (I have targed and ZIPed them! cause it got to have '.zip' extention. stupid!)

Hope that attachment works.

Well, any hints? Any help?
Please!
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Old 08-17-03, 08:03 AM   #2
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System:

Linux : Suse 8.0
Xfree86 Version : from SuSE 8.0
Kernel: 2.4.19 (self-compiled)
Video card : Asus AGP-V7100/T Pro GeForce2MX400 32 MB SDRAM Tv-O
M/B : EPoX EP-8KHA (chipset VIA KT266)
Processor : AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1400 MHz (Socket A)
Screen : TARGA Visionary 19''

Output of /proc/driver/nvidia/cards/0 gives:

Model: GeForce2 MX/MX 400
IRQ: 12
Video BIOS: 03.11.00.18.00
Card Type: AGP

See: It's very much like that in the recent posting of a similar problem by jaspal kallar on the topic "Suse 8.0, 1.0-4496 X server crash , Geforce 4 Ti 4200".

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Old 08-17-03, 11:07 AM   #3
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Default Lower BIOS AGP Aperture Size seems to help a bit...

I've experimented a bit more with different BIOS settings. Setting the 'AGP Aperture Size' down seems to lessen the problem. So I've changed it from 64MB down to as little as 4MB. It seems the crashes are now either taking much longer or gone altogether. Well, the real testing has yet to be done. At least now it seems to hold out at least these 10 minutes to write this...

Hey, my mood is suddenly much better Got some faith in the driver again

See ya, jp.
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Old 08-17-03, 01:35 PM   #4
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Default ...just crashed again

Ok. Now it just crashed again after a fresh boot and 1-2 minutes after X startup. Well, I'll give it up for now. I'll disable the driver and will just revert back to 21?? when I have more time.

Thanks all who bothered to think about this.

Maybe some future version I might try it again...after all the Linux support as a whole is not that bad and after all, that's why I selected GeForce when buying my machine. Maybe it's just bad luck with that VIA chipset on the motherboard or something. But since there are complete newbies also using this machine (and for work!) I need to do this.

See ya, Johannes.
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Old 08-17-03, 09:53 PM   #5
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Default I have the same problem with you

Suse 8.2
kernel 2.4.20
MX400 64M
XP 2400+
nForce 2 chipset

after I install the driver, I test it in Sax2, the screen flashed 3 times and became black, keyborad locked, only can remote connect it and restart my pc
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Old 08-18-03, 07:37 AM   #6
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Default Solution now found...

Hi guys!

Just to let you know, it seems that the crashes have gone after I've un-commented the line

"NvAGP" "0"

in my XF86Config file.

At least now I can work for almost an hour and still not a single crash

Happy me

See ya, Johannes.
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Old 08-18-03, 07:05 PM   #7
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That means that your card isn't using AGP mode. Nor is mine. It's a problem if you want anything to get decent 3D acceleration. NVIDIA, why am I getting this problem? Why is it so common here?
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Old 08-18-03, 08:22 PM   #8
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Same for me,

though it seems more card related.
Since I upgraded to an FX5600 from a GF2MX400 I had 4-5 crashes. Both with 43.63 and 44.96

FYI:
athlon1400
512DDR
RH8 fully up2date
2.4.21 kernel from kernel.org (NOT RH custom)
KDE 3.1.1
XF86 4.2.1
AGPGART
No FW/SBA

Though it hasnt crashed for almost a week now (I am pushing my luck :P )...
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Old 08-19-03, 12:38 AM   #9
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Well, someone else somewhere in this forum suggested, that it might have something to do with apg port configuration in the kernel, which might make sense, since my kernel is also self-compiled but I need that because of my VIA motherboard chipset.

Well, if nVidia told me the right or at least the most important setting for my agp port kernel configuration, that would be a perfectly acceptable solution for me.

Alas, where do I find the right configs? Recompiling and activating kernel after kernel to experiment around with this doesn't seem very practical to me. So any hint from them really would seem appropriate. Or am I asking too much here?

Could someone of the official support or even just someone having insight into the matter be so kind as to drop us a line about that or also just say what he/she thinks about the problem as a whole? That would be most kind.

See ya, Johannes.
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