Move pagefile.sys to a defraged partition/drive ,restart, defrag then replace...? - Page 2

Bman212121 · 11-03-08, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AngelGraves13

Windows is stupid. It wants to use a 16GB paging file because I have 8GB or RAM.

What issues have you run into?

Pretty sure BF2 will crash when you turn it off.

AngelGraves13 · 11-03-08, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bman212121

Pretty sure BF2 will crash when you turn it off.

Don't have BF2 and don't want it.

seeker · 11-03-08, 06:53 PM

I made a small separate partiton dedicated for the pagefile, that way I don't have to bother with switching it for defrag, and being separate it causes the main partition to be less fragmented also. I just wish that I could do the same with the hibernation file.

**crainger** · 11-03-08, 11:09 PM

Putting it in a separate partition on the same drive does another except make it harder to defragement. Best option is to put it on a separate physical drive.

Bman212121 · 11-04-08, 12:45 AM

When you think about it, you really do want the page file mixed in with the rest of your data. Every time the drive needs to access something from the page file it will have to travel the entire distance across the hard drive.

If I took a 500GB hard drive, then partitioned 450GB of it for OS / data, and then took the remaining for my swap file that would cause your drive to look like this.

OS/Data < Lots of free space > swap file. If I only had 100GB of data on that drive, anytime the computer needed to access that swap file it would be skipping over 350GB of dead space, or about 70% of the drive just to read or write from the swap file. On top of that, a drive starts on the outermost edge of the platter, and works its way in. The fastest part of the disk is on the outside. This means the swap file will likely be located on the slowest part of the disk. You can actually hinder performance more than help it using this type of setup.

If the swap file is mixed in with your data, it will not only have better read / write speeds, the seek time will go way down because it will be located a lot closer on the disk.

**crainger** · 11-04-08, 03:25 PM

That's a nice theory BMan but it doesn't work like that. :

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styles-T · 11-04-08, 09:08 PM

I used to shut it off. Restart PC. Delete pagefile. Defrag. Turn Pagefile back on after defrag.

Now I have 4gb of memory I just leave it off in Vista 64. Haven't had a problem yet.

Wolfhound · 11-05-08, 01:34 AM

I have the page file on a WD Raptor 36G and a little pagefile on my OS disk of about 250Mgs fixed for BSODs debugging.

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11-03-08, 11:09 PM	#16
crainger Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Coffs Harbour, NSW, Australia Posts: 29,535	Re: Move pagefile.sys to a defraged partition/drive ,restart, defrag then replace...? Putting it in a separate partition on the same drive does another except make it harder to defragement. Best option is to put it on a separate physical drive.

11-04-08, 12:45 AM	#17
Bman212121 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,726	Re: Move pagefile.sys to a defraged partition/drive ,restart, defrag then replace...? When you think about it, you really do want the page file mixed in with the rest of your data. Every time the drive needs to access something from the page file it will have to travel the entire distance across the hard drive. If I took a 500GB hard drive, then partitioned 450GB of it for OS / data, and then took the remaining for my swap file that would cause your drive to look like this. OS/Data < Lots of free space > swap file. If I only had 100GB of data on that drive, anytime the computer needed to access that swap file it would be skipping over 350GB of dead space, or about 70% of the drive just to read or write from the swap file. On top of that, a drive starts on the outermost edge of the platter, and works its way in. The fastest part of the disk is on the outside. This means the swap file will likely be located on the slowest part of the disk. You can actually hinder performance more than help it using this type of setup. If the swap file is mixed in with your data, it will not only have better read / write speeds, the seek time will go way down because it will be located a lot closer on the disk.

11-04-08, 03:25 PM	#18
crainger Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Coffs Harbour, NSW, Australia Posts: 29,535	Re: Move pagefile.sys to a defraged partition/drive ,restart, defrag then replace...? That's a nice theory BMan but it doesn't work like that. ::

11-04-08, 09:08 PM	#19
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11-05-08, 01:34 AM	#20
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