LotRO DX10 Client = BOING!!1!11!! - Page 10

jcossin · 12-04-08, 05:16 PM

Hmmm, sounds like I need to move from 180.48 to 180.60 then!

winton · 12-04-08, 05:24 PM

Move to the 180.60 shadows are good so far.

MDarkbladeM · 12-05-08, 01:07 AM

There still seems to be some shimmering issues going around in random locations. Better than originally, but it still needs lots of improvements. Celondim especially, is suffering from lots of bugs. Disappearing shadows, shimmering, shadows that should not be there etc.

I hope the next drivers will change things to the better.

jcossin · 12-05-08, 01:39 PM

I decided to give the drivers that came with my card a try. They are 177.42. So far all the dx10 shadows around Evendim look great and AA is working without locking me up.

BTW - I tried 180.70 and the shadows were still messed up and I locked when I zoned with AA on.

177.42 looks like a keeper for now. Back to Middle Earth!!

winton · 12-05-08, 04:39 PM

How's your 260+ comparing to the 4870 so far?

jcossin · 12-06-08, 10:34 PM

I had a 4870x2 and the framerates overall were showing higher but my gtx260 seems less jerky?

Also, the grass didn't move in the wind on the 4870x2?!?!?! At first when I saw that effect on the GTX260 I thought something was messed up and the ground was shimmering, then I noticed that the grass was actually moving in the wind and I was like WHOA!

Also, textures in the distance would flicker on the 4870x2, haven't seen that on the gtx260.

So overall, besides the messed up 180 series drivers, I'm liking the gtx260 better. Considering the 4870x2 was a $550 card and this card cost me a little under $150, that is VERY amazing to me!!!!!

saguy · 12-10-08, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcossin

I had a 4870x2 and the framerates overall were showing higher but my gtx260 seems less jerky?

Also, the grass didn't move in the wind on the 4870x2?!?!?! At first when I saw that effect on the GTX260 I thought something was messed up and the ground was shimmering, then I noticed that the grass was actually moving in the wind and I was like WHOA!

Also, textures in the distance would flicker on the 4870x2, haven't seen that on the gtx260.

So overall, besides the messed up 180 series drivers, I'm liking the gtx260 better. Considering the 4870x2 was a $550 card and this card cost me a little under $150, that is VERY amazing to me!!!!!

I have a 4870 and the jerkiness you are describing is actually frame skipping which is an issue with this card in many games. I resolved it by capping the framerate in the user config file and it now runs smoothly with DX10 maxed x4AA and x16AF vsynch and tripple buffering enabled. I do get a slight shimmer in the shadows but it is not an issue for me. Before I capped the framerate I was getting between 70 to 80 FPS and the only area that the frame rate takes hit is in the Old Forest. I also get huge framerate drops whenever a rune-keeper comes on screen and from what I have read appears to be a driver issue. That means I can't group with Rune-keepers unless I play at 10FPS. I regret not going for the GTX260 as the nVidia drivers are far more stable than those of Ati plus the card overclocks like a demon.

LordJuanlo · 12-10-08, 11:26 AM

Guys I have been getting mad with LOTRO, I could play for hours with no crashes, or could have full crashes within minutes, specially inside Moria. I rolled back to previous drivers, used the latest Catalyst hotfix, tried DX9, and still were getting crashes.

Until I found out that graphics drivers were perfectly. There is an issue with the Sound Blaster X-Fi and LOTRO (there are threads in both american and european LOTRO forums about it), if you enable OpenAL hardware acceleration under Windows Vista the game will crash with BSOD sooner or later. After going to motherboard sound crashes are gone and I'm enjoying again long DX10 gaming sessions with 8xAA with no crashes at all.

I have installed 3D SoundBack from Realtek (similar to Alchemy, but for Realtek chipsets), that program makes LOTRO believe DirectSound3D is available so I don't lose 5.1 support. Using my motherboard realtime DTS enconding I don't miss the X-Fi at all, 3D sound works great and the crashes have finally gone away. I'm really enjoying the game now.

saguy · 12-10-08, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordJuanlo

Guys I have been getting mad with LOTRO, I could play for hours with no crashes, or could have full crashes within minutes, specially inside Moria. I rolled back to previous drivers, used the latest Catalyst hotfix, tried DX9, and still were getting crashes.

Until I found out that graphics drivers were perfectly. There is an issue with the Sound Blaster X-Fi and LOTRO (there are threads in both american and european LOTRO forums about it), if you enable OpenAL hardware acceleration under Windows Vista the game will crash with BSOD sooner or later. After going to motherboard sound crashes are gone and I'm enjoying again long DX10 gaming sessions with 8xAA with no crashes at all.

I have installed 3D SoundBack from Realtek (similar to Alchemy, but for Realtek chipsets), that program makes LOTRO believe DirectSound3D is available so I don't lose 5.1 support. Using my motherboard realtime DTS enconding I don't miss the X-Fi at all, 3D sound works great and the crashes have finally gone away. I'm really enjoying the game now.

I have X-Fi and have had no problems so far - I have not been to the Mines yet.

jcossin · 12-10-08, 04:50 PM

I dumped my X-Fi about a month ago and the motherboard sound is just fine! I don't even notice the lost of the X-Fi. Under Vista the X-Fi is no better and with buggy drivers in fact worse than onboard sound.

Too bad, I really like my X-Fi under XP, but it is a crap product under Vista...

saguy · 12-11-08, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcossin

I dumped my X-Fi about a month ago and the motherboard sound is just fine! I don't even notice the lost of the X-Fi. Under Vista the X-Fi is no better and with buggy drivers in fact worse than onboard sound.

Too bad, I really like my X-Fi under XP, but it is a crap product under Vista...

I am amazed that one company can consistently produce poor drivers. I have only been running Vista for 2 weeks and the first sign of an X-Fi glitch and I will also be dumping my card. I do not think I will ever get a dedicated sound card again.

winton · 12-11-08, 11:48 AM

What about the zonar(sp) sound cards from Asus? I've been using the onboard sound since I switched to vista.

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12-04-08, 05:24 PM	#110
winton Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wouldn't you like to know! Posts: 267	Re: LotRO DX10 Client = BOING!!1!11!! Move to the 180.60 shadows are good so far.

12-05-08, 01:07 AM	#111
MDarkbladeM The silent observer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Finland Posts: 31	Re: LotRO DX10 Client = BOING!!1!11!! There still seems to be some shimmering issues going around in random locations. Better than originally, but it still needs lots of improvements. Celondim especially, is suffering from lots of bugs. Disappearing shadows, shimmering, shadows that should not be there etc. I hope the next drivers will change things to the better. __________________ Mauri "Darkblade" Majanoja

12-05-08, 01:39 PM	#112
jcossin -=> Indy <=- Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 476	Re: LotRO DX10 Client = BOING!!1!11!! I decided to give the drivers that came with my card a try. They are 177.42. So far all the dx10 shadows around Evendim look great and AA is working without locking me up. BTW - I tried 180.70 and the shadows were still messed up and I locked when I zoned with AA on. 177.42 looks like a keeper for now. Back to Middle Earth!! __________________ http://www.cardcycle.com - Send greeting cards and gifts with a click! http://www.greetingcardsgirl.com - Check out the weekly Free Sale list posted every Sunday. Asus G71Gx Laptop nVidia 260m GTX 1GB DDR3 Intel Core2Duo P8700 (2.53GHz) 6GB 800MHz DDR2 64GB Corsair Xtreme SSD 500GB 5400RPM SATA HDD 17" 1440 x 900 WXGA+ LCD Windows 7 64-bit

12-05-08, 04:39 PM	#113
winton Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wouldn't you like to know! Posts: 267	Re: LotRO DX10 Client = BOING!!1!11!! How's your 260+ comparing to the 4870 so far?

12-06-08, 10:34 PM	#114
jcossin -=> Indy <=- Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 476	Re: LotRO DX10 Client = BOING!!1!11!! I had a 4870x2 and the framerates overall were showing higher but my gtx260 seems less jerky? Also, the grass didn't move in the wind on the 4870x2?!?!?! At first when I saw that effect on the GTX260 I thought something was messed up and the ground was shimmering, then I noticed that the grass was actually moving in the wind and I was like WHOA! Also, textures in the distance would flicker on the 4870x2, haven't seen that on the gtx260. So overall, besides the messed up 180 series drivers, I'm liking the gtx260 better. Considering the 4870x2 was a $550 card and this card cost me a little under $150, that is VERY amazing to me!!!!! __________________ http://www.cardcycle.com - Send greeting cards and gifts with a click! http://www.greetingcardsgirl.com - Check out the weekly Free Sale list posted every Sunday. Asus G71Gx Laptop nVidia 260m GTX 1GB DDR3 Intel Core2Duo P8700 (2.53GHz) 6GB 800MHz DDR2 64GB Corsair Xtreme SSD 500GB 5400RPM SATA HDD 17" 1440 x 900 WXGA+ LCD Windows 7 64-bit

12-10-08, 11:26 AM	#116
LordJuanlo Widescreen rules Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Spain Posts: 2,184	Re: LotRO DX10 Client = BOING!!1!11!! Guys I have been getting mad with LOTRO, I could play for hours with no crashes, or could have full crashes within minutes, specially inside Moria. I rolled back to previous drivers, used the latest Catalyst hotfix, tried DX9, and still were getting crashes. Until I found out that graphics drivers were perfectly. There is an issue with the Sound Blaster X-Fi and LOTRO (there are threads in both american and european LOTRO forums about it), if you enable OpenAL hardware acceleration under Windows Vista the game will crash with BSOD sooner or later. After going to motherboard sound crashes are gone and I'm enjoying again long DX10 gaming sessions with 8xAA with no crashes at all. I have installed 3D SoundBack from Realtek (similar to Alchemy, but for Realtek chipsets), that program makes LOTRO believe DirectSound3D is available so I don't lose 5.1 support. Using my motherboard realtime DTS enconding I don't miss the X-Fi at all, 3D sound works great and the crashes have finally gone away. I'm really enjoying the game now. __________________ Core i7 920 / Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 Gigabyte EX58-Extreme / 6 Gb OCZ PC3-12800 Platinum 1 x Intel X-25M G2 80 Gb / 3 x Seagate 1 Tb (RAID5) ATI 5870 (Graphics) + GeForce 9600GT (PhysX) on Samsung SM244T 1920x1200 LG GGW-H20L BluRay & HD-DVD / Logitech Z-5500 5.1 DTS / Westone 3 Earphones Asus Xonar D2 / 360 Elite Wireless Controller / Gigabyte Odin GT 800W Windows 7 x64 (also a 360 and a PSP )

12-10-08, 04:50 PM	#118
jcossin -=> Indy <=- Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 476	Re: LotRO DX10 Client = BOING!!1!11!! I dumped my X-Fi about a month ago and the motherboard sound is just fine! I don't even notice the lost of the X-Fi. Under Vista the X-Fi is no better and with buggy drivers in fact worse than onboard sound. Too bad, I really like my X-Fi under XP, but it is a crap product under Vista... __________________ http://www.cardcycle.com - Send greeting cards and gifts with a click! http://www.greetingcardsgirl.com - Check out the weekly Free Sale list posted every Sunday. Asus G71Gx Laptop nVidia 260m GTX 1GB DDR3 Intel Core2Duo P8700 (2.53GHz) 6GB 800MHz DDR2 64GB Corsair Xtreme SSD 500GB 5400RPM SATA HDD 17" 1440 x 900 WXGA+ LCD Windows 7 64-bit

12-11-08, 11:48 AM	#120
winton Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wouldn't you like to know! Posts: 267	Re: LotRO DX10 Client = BOING!!1!11!! What about the zonar(sp) sound cards from Asus? I've been using the onboard sound since I switched to vista.