Out of curiosity, 280 to 295

Technoholic · 01-17-09, 01:35 PM

Did anyone go from a single card 280 to single card 295? If so, how much better?

Only a little difference? Just out of curiosity.

newls1 · 01-18-09, 05:52 PM

good question.......

-=DVS=- · 01-18-09, 10:34 PM

For me a big yes , not a necessity but big improvement.

Crysis Warhead
Single - 27+ ( felt slow even thought Crysis handles low fps well an is playable, had to tone down effects to reach my preferable around 60 )
SLI - 48+ ( felt much smoother offcourse not quite there yet not gold 60 , but now can keep more eye candy on

)

Lost Planet Extreme Conditions
Single - Snow 42+ Cave 59+ (heavy snow battle dips into ~25 , feels uncomfortable even thought dip is short )
SLI - Snow 81+ Cave 95+ (heavy snow battle dips into ~42 , not noticeable slowdown , happy camper

)

Left 4 Dead ( havn't tested much but...)
Single ~85+
SLI ~158+
( Both cases smooth and eye candy maxed out so no improvement... )

Supreme Commander Forged Alliance
( not exactly easy to benchmark but at least doubled frame rate had to keep shadows off on single to avoid sluggish game play on extreme battles with huge base something like 22 fps) , ( now can have shadows maxed out and still feels smooth in big base still no AA but very nice improvement

~40 fps)

And No i have not experienced microstuttering , yes i know what it is , best seen on ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2 there is video on youtube playing Crysis microstuttering plain obvious. Its probably there up to an extent but to feel it or see it you need to be superhuman, recording frametimes with fraps there is millisecond variation just like shown on other websites however its present on single gpu also so people should not base their decision purely on some date thats not very well understood

**Rummy** · 01-18-09, 11:06 PM

I have a GTX 260 and will be getting my 295 this week. I will report back.

Blacklash · 01-18-09, 11:26 PM

The below review has a 280, a 295, and a 285 in it @ 700 on the core.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...on-review.html

01-18-09, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacklash

The below review has a 280, a 295, and a 285 in it @ 700 on the core.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...on-review.html

Interesting benchmarks in that review... it's funny how these cards can test so differently game to game, and even just adding 2AA can totally re-arrange the results.

Maverickman · 01-19-09, 10:34 AM

I went from a GTX 280 to a GTX 295. I'm getting over 20K in 3DMark Vantage vs. 13K with the GTX 280. Also, Far Cry 2 and Crysis run a LOT better. The only think is that Crysis and Crysis Warhead will crash and turn off my computer after 20 minutes or so. No other game I have does this though so I'm thinking it's an SLI issue with Crysis.

newls1 · 01-19-09, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverickman

I went from a GTX 280 to a GTX 295. I'm getting over 20K in 3DMark Vantage vs. 13K with the GTX 280. Also, Far Cry 2 and Crysis run a LOT better. The only think is that Crysis and Crysis Warhead will crash and turn off my computer after 20 minutes or so. No other game I have does this though so I'm thinking it's an SLI issue with Crysis.

If your pc is shutting off after 20MIN or so, then that is NOT an SLi issue, that is a PSU issue.

CAUTION · 01-19-09, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newls1

If your pc is shutting off after 20MIN or so, then that is NOT an SLi issue, that is a PSU issue.

I totally agree with you newls1, because I have no issues running any games what so ever.

Monnie Rock · 01-19-09, 02:24 PM

Important things to comment on when talking performance differences between the cards are:

1) What resolution you are running
2) What level of Anti-aliasing you are using

The GTX295 is a great card until you get to 2560 x1600 adding over 4x Anti-aliasing.

Another thing, comparing a single gpu 280/285 to a dual gpu 295, look at the differences in performance between a 295 and SLI 280/285. There is a big difference. Apples to apples/ SLI to SLI

newls1 · 01-19-09, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monnie Rock

Important things to comment on when talking performance differences between the cards are:

1) What resolution you are running
2) What level of Anti-aliasing you are using

The GTX295 is a great card until you get to 2560 x1600 adding over 4x Anti-aliasing.

Another thing, comparing a single gpu 280/285 to a dual gpu 295, look at the differences in performance between a 295 and SLI 280/285. There is a big difference. Apples to apples/ SLI to SLI

Very true, however I dont understand why people compair the GTX295 to SLi GTX280/285's...Just doesnt make sense. The GTX295 is NOT 2 GTX280/285s, and there for should not be compaired to them. The GTX295 is more closely related to the GTX260 (I like to say GTX270) as this card is like a hybrid.... If you compare the 295 to SLi 260's then this is a more fair argument, however the 295 will be faster....

Blacklash · 01-19-09, 03:45 PM

Yep if you want to play 2560x with 8x-16x CSAA try two of those for 298usd a pop-

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=EV-...c17d72230e4431

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01-18-09, 05:52 PM	#2
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01-18-09, 10:34 PM	#3
-=DVS=- .:. Lafiel .:. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outerspace Posts: 3,009	Re: Out of curiosity, 280 to 295 For me a big yes , not a necessity but big improvement. Crysis Warhead Single - 27+ ( felt slow even thought Crysis handles low fps well an is playable, had to tone down effects to reach my preferable around 60 ) SLI - 48+ ( felt much smoother offcourse not quite there yet not gold 60 , but now can keep more eye candy on ) Lost Planet Extreme Conditions Single - Snow 42+ Cave 59+ (heavy snow battle dips into ~25 , feels uncomfortable even thought dip is short ) SLI - Snow 81+ Cave 95+ (heavy snow battle dips into ~42 , not noticeable slowdown , happy camper ) Left 4 Dead ( havn't tested much but...) Single ~85+ SLI ~158+ ( Both cases smooth and eye candy maxed out so no improvement... ) Supreme Commander Forged Alliance ( not exactly easy to benchmark but at least doubled frame rate had to keep shadows off on single to avoid sluggish game play on extreme battles with huge base something like 22 fps) , ( now can have shadows maxed out and still feels smooth in big base still no AA but very nice improvement ~40 fps) And No i have not experienced microstuttering , yes i know what it is , best seen on ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2 there is video on youtube playing Crysis microstuttering plain obvious. Its probably there up to an extent but to feel it or see it you need to be superhuman, recording frametimes with fraps there is millisecond variation just like shown on other websites however its present on single gpu also so people should not base their decision purely on some date thats not very well understood __________________ *.:. Lian Li X500FX .:. i7 2600k* .:. PNY GTX 680 .:. Corsair DDR3 8GB .:. Silverstone 800W PSU .:. Asus P8P67-M Pro .:. Crucial M4 SSD 512GB .:.**

01-18-09, 11:06 PM	#4
Rummy Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Under your bed Posts: 1,684	Re: Out of curiosity, 280 to 295 I have a GTX 260 and will be getting my 295 this week. I will report back.

01-18-09, 11:26 PM	#5
Blacklash 8^9^3 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Old Vizima Posts: 3,679	Re: Out of curiosity, 280 to 295 The below review has a 280, a 295, and a 285 in it @ 700 on the core. http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...on-review.html __________________ Intel Core i7 920 @ 3.96GHz (1.36v)\|Mushkin 998681 XP3-12800 (3x2GB) ASUS TUF Sabertooth (X58)\|ASUS GTX 580 DirectCU II (980\|4604)\|ASUS PA246Q WD VelociRaptor 150GB HD (x2)\|Pioneer DVR-2920Q\|LG GH22LS30\|Klipsch PM20 2.0 SilverStone OP1000-E\|SilverStone TJ10-B\|Thermalright U-120 Extreme\|Win 7 HP x64

01-19-09, 10:34 AM	#7
Maverickman Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 524	Re: Out of curiosity, 280 to 295 I went from a GTX 280 to a GTX 295. I'm getting over 20K in 3DMark Vantage vs. 13K with the GTX 280. Also, Far Cry 2 and Crysis run a LOT better. The only think is that Crysis and Crysis Warhead will crash and turn off my computer after 20 minutes or so. No other game I have does this though so I'm thinking it's an SLI issue with Crysis. __________________ Core i7 3770 @ 3.4GHz EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Ti Superclocked 1TB Seagate HDD 7200 RPM 32MB Cache 16X DVD-RW drive Gateway 24-inch 108p monitor Gateway speakers

01-19-09, 02:24 PM	#10
Monnie Rock Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Jacksonville Beach, Florida Posts: 276	Re: Out of curiosity, 280 to 295 Important things to comment on when talking performance differences between the cards are: 1) What resolution you are running 2) What level of Anti-aliasing you are using The GTX295 is a great card until you get to 2560 x1600 adding over 4x Anti-aliasing. Another thing, comparing a single gpu 280/285 to a dual gpu 295, look at the differences in performance between a 295 and SLI 280/285. There is a big difference. Apples to apples/ SLI to SLI __________________ Thermaltake Tsunami Dream Tower \|\| Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe \|\| AMD Athlon 64 FX-60(17x200FSB) \|\| VapoChill Lightspeed \|\| 4Gb OCZ PC3200 2-2-2-5 \|\| Thermaltake Toughpower 1200W W0156RU\|\| 2x SATAII Western Digital Caviar SE 160 GB RAID 0 \|\| 2x EVGA GTX 280 SCC SLI \|\| Creative X-fi \|\| Plextor SATA PX-716SA DVD±RW \|\| Mitsubishi DP2070SB-SV 22"CRT \|\| Vista Ultimate 64 bit \|\| TM Cougar HOTAS NXT Mod \|\| Simped F-16C Rudder Pedals \|\| Track IR 3 Pro \|\| RME Fireface 800 \|\| Mesa Boogie Tri-Axis \|\| TC Electronics G-Force \|\| BBE 882i \|\| Sennheiser HD650 \|\| Ibanez Jem7 VWH \|\| Ibanez Universe 7 String \|\| Sonar 7 Producer Edition

01-19-09, 03:45 PM	#12
Blacklash 8^9^3 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Old Vizima Posts: 3,679	Re: Out of curiosity, 280 to 295 Yep if you want to play 2560x with 8x-16x CSAA try two of those for 298usd a pop- http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=EV-...c17d72230e4431 __________________ Intel Core i7 920 @ 3.96GHz (1.36v)\|Mushkin 998681 XP3-12800 (3x2GB) ASUS TUF Sabertooth (X58)\|ASUS GTX 580 DirectCU II (980\|4604)\|ASUS PA246Q WD VelociRaptor 150GB HD (x2)\|Pioneer DVR-2920Q\|LG GH22LS30\|Klipsch PM20 2.0 SilverStone OP1000-E\|SilverStone TJ10-B\|Thermalright U-120 Extreme\|Win 7 HP x64

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