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Old 01-19-09, 11:56 PM   #13
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Come on guys, this is what happens when Microsoft tie IE into the OS so tight and other of their software. Firefox doesn't tie itself into the OS, no sofware like this should.

Ever wonder why Office requeries service packs to be installed before you can even install it, I mean it's a damn piece of software tied into the core of the OS. Apple do this as well(Apple dont have a Monopoly like Microsoft do or huge share), you need a X version of leopard to even run their software such as iLife.

OpenOffice 3 will run on XP/Vista without service packs(even windows 2000 with Sp2), see the point?
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Old 01-20-09, 02:04 AM   #14
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This is really sad. I mean do car companies get in trouble for selling cars with their engines in them, and also designing the car with a certain engine in mind? These guys act like Windows is public property and they need to protect it! It's a ****ing privately created piece of software. Microsoft should be allowed to do as they please with their own product. What's next? Game devs getting in trouble for installing their game engine with their game and making it hard for modders?
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Old 01-20-09, 07:28 AM   #15
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I hate Linux users.
Thats not my problem it's yours, is that as far as your IQ can go?
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Old 01-20-09, 09:11 AM   #16
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This is really sad. I mean do car companies get in trouble for selling cars with their engines in them, and also designing the car with a certain engine in mind? These guys act like Windows is public property and they need to protect it! It's a ****ing privately created piece of software. Microsoft should be allowed to do as they please with their own product. What's next? Game devs getting in trouble for installing their game engine with their game and making it hard for modders?
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This entire argument is retarded. This article makes Mythy look like a genius.
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Not really, it's because you people just dont get the point and think eveyone and anything that ships a default thing would be sued as well.

Ask yourself this question, it's really simple.

Does Firefox, Opera etc.. tie themselves into the OS and requiering X service pack to use them normal and can it be removed?

Microsoft do with with IE, it's tied into the OS and because of this they sue them, competition can't get a look in, Majority of users user the defaults. Microsoft was forced to put default access controls into their service packs with Windows 2000 and XP/Vista, pre to that it was very hard to near impossible to remove their software from the OS.

The point and lession is if you STILL didnt' get it is, dont tie your software into the OS to the point where you can't remove it or be flexible like a third part applications. The simple fact of the matter is that if Microsoft did make their apps detached from the OS(like third party apps are) they wouldn't get sued, it's all about anti-trust right from the 90's when netscape pretty much died because of such actions by Microsoft.
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MS now, IBM next....
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This is really sad. I mean do car companies get in trouble for selling cars with their engines in them, and also designing the car with a certain engine in mind? These guys act like Windows is public property and they need to protect it! It's a ****ing privately created piece of software. Microsoft should be allowed to do as they please with their own product. What's next? Game devs getting in trouble for installing their game engine with their game and making it hard for modders?
there is a simple reason for all of this, MS is a big source of income for EU.
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since the retarded goverment of Sweden joined EU although the people had to do with it everything has gone worse than it was before EU so i think EU should go f themselves and Sweden get out of it
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there is a simple reason for all of this, MS is a big source of income for EU.
What the EU get in fines from Microsoft is nothing, it's pocket change to them, ofcourse you can trust the U.S govenment to to let them off, aleast it's a proper fine rather than backhanders to keep their monopoly.
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This is really sad. I mean do car companies get in trouble for selling cars with their engines in them, and also designing the car with a certain engine in mind? These guys act like Windows is public property and they need to protect it! It's a ****ing privately created piece of software. Microsoft should be allowed to do as they please with their own product. What's next? Game devs getting in trouble for installing their game engine with their game and making it hard for modders?
Wrong analogy. A better one would be a car manufacturer puts a lock on your rims, and you can't put aftermarket rims on your car, or change a tire, unless you OK it with your car manufacturer. Or a turbo whatever floats your boat.

In USA we have a thing called the Magnuson-Moss act, and it prohibits car manufacturers from voiding your warranty if you put aftermarket equipment on your car.
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Simple, you do not like IE, do not buy Windows. Problem solved.
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Wrong analogy. A better one would be a car manufacturer puts a lock on your rims, and you can't put aftermarket rims on your car, or change a tire, unless you OK it with your car manufacturer. Or a turbo whatever floats your boat.

In USA we have a thing called the Magnuson-Moss act, and it prohibits car manufacturers from voiding your warranty if you put aftermarket equipment on your car.
I didn't know you can use a turbo to float a boat.

w/e floats your boat I guess.
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