HAL on Windows 7?

kam03 · 02-02-09, 01:38 PM

In Windows Vista, Microsoft has decided to remove the Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) for DirectSound and DirectSound3D.

Will Windows 7 have it back? or will we still have to use Alchemy?

Thanks

**nekrosoft13** · 02-02-09, 01:52 PM

it is gone, it will not be back it was removed for a reason.

02-02-09, 02:00 PM

Why was it removed, Nekro?

B0ne · 02-02-09, 02:21 PM

Because XAudio 2 will be replacing it.

**lduguay** · 02-02-09, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B0ne

Because XAudio 2 will be replacing it.

More XBOX console ports on the way.

JasonPC · 02-02-09, 05:02 PM

I was really hoping HAL 9000 would be on Windows 7

ViN86 · 02-02-09, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearclaw

Why was it removed, Nekro?

thought it had something to do with security and regulating the OS's control over the hardware.

02-02-09, 07:51 PM

Open the pod bay doors, DD.

**nekrosoft13** · 02-02-09, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViN86

thought it had something to do with security and regulating the OS's control over the hardware.

true, and it also was responsible for many BSOD in XP.

walterman · 02-03-09, 09:09 AM

Well, the ASUS D2/D2X do all the sound mixing work by software, and it seems to work really well, and offer excellent compatibility:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=125173

Yeah, it uses more CPU than the Creative cards, but, with a multi core cpu, this should not be a problem, and you gain stability & compatibility. Prolly this is why the HAL won't return in W7.

But, personally, i would like to see the HAL returning to W7, because i do not like to lose performance, and i think that it could be done properly this time.

Galvin · 02-03-09, 01:31 PM

I think more games are going the software emulation route. I been using world of warcraft software sound and its perfect never has problems. Since WoW is the only game I play I don't even need hardware sound anymore.

02-02-09, 01:38 PM	#1
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02-02-09, 02:00 PM	#3
Bearclaw Guest Posts: n/a	Re: HAL on Windows 7? Why was it removed, Nekro?

02-02-09, 02:21 PM	#4
B0ne Booyah Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: England Posts: 248	Re: HAL on Windows 7? Because XAudio 2 will be replacing it.

02-02-09, 05:02 PM	#6
JasonPC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,103	Re: HAL on Windows 7? I was really hoping HAL 9000 would be on Windows 7

02-02-09, 07:51 PM	#8
methimpikehoses Guest Posts: n/a	Re: HAL on Windows 7? Open the pod bay doors, DD.

02-03-09, 09:09 AM	#10
walterman Rayne Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,525	Re: HAL on Windows 7? Well, the ASUS D2/D2X do all the sound mixing work by software, and it seems to work really well, and offer excellent compatibility: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=125173 Yeah, it uses more CPU than the Creative cards, but, with a multi core cpu, this should not be a problem, and you gain stability & compatibility. Prolly this is why the HAL won't return in W7. But, personally, i would like to see the HAL returning to W7, because i do not like to lose performance, and i think that it could be done properly this time. __________________ ASUS Rampage Formula X48 \| Xeon 3350 @ 3.6 GHz (450x8/1.26v) \| 4x1GB OCZ DDR2 PC2-6400 Reaper CL3 @ 900 MHz 3-4-4-15 \| 1 x eVGA GTX 285 SSC \| 1 x ASUS EN8800GTX (PhysX/CUDA -> Burnt by nVidia 196.75 driver) \| X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty PCIe \| 1 x Intel X25-M G2 80GB \| 2 x 750GB WD RE2 7500AYYS SATA2 16MB \| Samsung SH-B083L SATA \| Enermax Revolution 1250W \| Samsung SyncMaster 275T 27" 1920x1200 \| Thermaltake Black Armor \| BloodRayne 2 FSAA Patch

02-03-09, 01:31 PM	#11
Galvin Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 241	Re: HAL on Windows 7? I think more games are going the software emulation route. I been using world of warcraft software sound and its perfect never has problems. Since WoW is the only game I play I don't even need hardware sound anymore.

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