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Old 06-15-09, 07:41 AM   #13
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they have to. Xbox is there center for gaming.

to be fair crainger the xbox equally get pirated..but it get sold a lot more where as pc would get less pirated but less sell copies for obvious reasons.

unless its a solid good game it wont sell well.
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Old 06-15-09, 08:02 AM   #14
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I'm guessing we will see it eventually. CliffyB is a douche. If everyone would boycott his games till they come to PC too, that would be great!!
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Is anyone even playing gears2? I don't see the fire storm that the first one created as far as people going crazy over it. I wonder if it was a pop/fizzle for this 2nd one. If so, they need to just go ahead and give it to us.
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Old 06-15-09, 01:13 PM   #16
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I don't think MS is out to destroy PC gaming, it's just 360 makes more money and has a better image. I mean look. It's more accessible, fairly easy to create games for, big investment that has paid off and every time they do a PC port we whine and complain about it anyway and pirate the game. The only ones destroying PC gaming is PC gamers.
Microsoft is just ignoring PC gaming now. Which makes it a bit strange when they are also in control of PC gaming, with Windows and DirectX.

PC gaming wont go away, but the market will change. Big titles from big companies will be console first, with exceptions of course. Some games are still best on PC and a few companies like Blizzard are PC/Mac only. It will be fun to see when Blizzards starts to do console games for real. Their previous console efforts have sort of imploded.
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Microsoft is just ignoring PC gaming now. Which makes it a bit strange when they are also in control of PC gaming, with Windows and DirectX.
The former head of Games for Windows Live! said in an interview not long ago with PC Gamer that MS' stance on PC games is to basically ignore them, but to make sure the tools are there for developers who want them.
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Old 06-15-09, 04:33 PM   #18
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I think you are right, it looks like Microsoft's only goal is to destroy PC gaming no matter the cost.
There are a couple major reasons why I agree with you:

1. Console Games charge $10 more for a game at time of release and their resale value stays unnaturally high for a long time.
2. Devs/Pubs can spend less money making a game, because Consolers are used to sloppy performance and not having options.
3. The main reason is Hardware related... obviously... because the Devs only have to program a game to run with basic Framerate requirements on 2 machines (P3 & 360), their 'testing period' is cheaper/more hassle free in the long run.

Put all of that together and what you get is a business model that makes more money than the PC model.... 'and' taboot, you can dictate 'all' you want to your customers because they have ZERO choices when it comes to hardware, i.e. configuration of their "gaming machines".


It's Tyrannical Gaming and nothing more, and as long as the Public continues to buy into it's BS, the worse it's going to become for PC Gaming and the worse Gaming is going to be as a whole in the long run.....


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Old 06-15-09, 04:38 PM   #19
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I don't think MS is out to destroy PC gaming, it's just 360 makes more money and has a better image. I mean look. It's more accessible, fairly easy to create games for, big investment that has paid off and every time they do a PC port we whine and complain about it anyway and pirate the game. The only ones destroying PC gaming is PC gamers.
Ultimately Pirating is the cause of many things... but there are other factors.

DRM Schemes of today and of the last Decade have turned a number of "what used to be normal purchasers of games" PC Gamers against the Pubs/Devs. The fact that for the last 5+ years, PC Gamers expect a game to 8/10 come out of the box with bugs (sometimes game crashing bugs, especially these last couple years) and have to wait at the mercy of Pubs to pay Devs to fix said bugs via patches/etc... is also a huge factor for a multitude of PC Gamers closing their pocket book.

I'm not saying either of those factors is just cause to steal a game one enjoys playing: I'm simply stating other reasons why PC Gaming and Piracy has become what it has become.... so in the end, it's not 'just' PC Gamers who are to blame for the nonsense that is PC Gaming today.
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Is anyone even playing gears2? I don't see the fire storm that the first one created as far as people going crazy over it. I wonder if it was a pop/fizzle for this 2nd one. If so, they need to just go ahead and give it to us.
Looked like another gorgeous Railride from the reviews I read.... it's 3rd person, so honestly I can live without it... hell, I've played less than 15 mins of the 1st one, lol.

It's hard for me to get into 3rd person when it's 'so' bloody easy to make a FP view.... and with the beautiful U3 engine, I was pissed when I first learned GoW was a 3PS.
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I'm guessing we will see it eventually. CliffyB is a douche. If everyone would boycott his games till they come to PC too, that would be great!!
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Old 06-15-09, 08:09 PM   #22
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Hmmmmm, I have a vision.

When MS is ready to launch Windows 7 and Direct X 11 we'll see them all of a sudden praise the PC gaming customer and want us to upgrade. They will show us how much better it is and how many devs are working on DX11 titles.

God I wish OpenGL took the lead instead of DX

Because of the lack of interest MS has shown the PC gaming customer, I've voted with my wallet and have moved my boxes and the families laptops over to Apple. I have one box left and that is for playing video games. I run XP and will not be updating it to Vista or Win7. I will also not be upgrading to the latest video card or CPU (which I've done with every top end nV card, released as well as intel CPU and intel/nV based MBs) so while in the long run the hardware vendors hurt as well as MS.

I've save a ton of $$ and feel better for it in the long run.
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There are a couple major reasons why I agree with you:

1. Console Games charge $10 more for a game at time of release and their resale value stays unnaturally high for a long time.
2. Devs/Pubs can spend less money making a game, because Consolers are used to sloppy performance and not having options.
3. The main reason is Hardware related... obviously... because the Devs only have to program a game to run with basic Framerate requirements on 2 machines (P3 & 360), their 'testing period' is cheaper/more hassle free in the long run.


Put all of that together and what you get is a business model that makes more money than the PC model.... 'and' taboot, you can dictate 'all' you want to your customers because they have ZERO choices when it comes to hardware, i.e. configuration of their "gaming machines".


It's Tyrannical Gaming and nothing more, and as long as the Public continues to buy into it's BS, the worse it's going to become for PC Gaming and the worse Gaming is going to be as a whole in the long run.....


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Of course it will come, they said the same thing on the first one, it would take years for hardware to mature to even think to port it to pc and shortly after it was released.. they talk too much bs.
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