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Old 06-19-09, 12:21 PM   #13
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Comparing the PC's most everyone has on these forums to consoles there is about an $800 difference in price. Look how outdated mine is and my CPU/Mobo/RAM add up to the price of a new 360. When these parts were new they added up to over that ($200 for Mobo, $200 for CPU, $80 for ram, that's a 160GB PS3).

Then there's the monitor, the case, KB&M, graphics card, power supply, etc.
you are missing one point, what can you do on PC vs Console. Console is one trick pony.
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Old 06-19-09, 12:24 PM   #14
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you are missing one point, what can you do on PC vs Console. Console is one trick pony.
You don't buy a console expecting to use it for anything other than gaming and multimedia purposes. The point is moot.
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Old 06-19-09, 01:22 PM   #15
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no its not moot, everyone that has a console, also buys PCs. difference is that PC they usually buy is from a store.

Comparing price between a complete PC and Console is also not accurate. Most people have PCs, some might be rather old. But price difference should be considered how much it cost to turn that PC that people own into a gaming PC, in most cases all you need is decent video card. That is about 100-160 for decent ATI or Nvidia card.

More house holds have PC then Console. If a house hold has a PC, and they want to play games, what is more reasonable investment, 100-160 for video card, or 250-400 for console? And then spend 3-4 times more per game (European game prices).

People in Europe understand that, that is why MS is using their "force 360 games down their throats strategy" and made official statements that they won't do simotenous PCs release because they want to force people to buy RROD_box.

Back to the one trick-pony statement. Recently I upgraded my Q6600 based system to i7. For price of that upgrade I could have bought a PS3, Wii and few games.
But in my book that would not be worth it
A) there are only maybe 3-5 games on those consoles that are exclusive and actually intrest me, 1 not being even released yet.
B) that is it, what else could I do with them? Blu-ray player? I have HTPC for that, running XBMC.
C) with PC upgrade not only will it play newer games, current games better, but also gained speed in all tasks, faster video encoding, and massive ammount of multi-tasking. Thanks to 8 threads I can run video encoding on 4, and a game on 4 threads with no slow downs.
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The fact that the PS3 is also a damn good Blu-Ray player was one of the main reasons I felt it was worth buying a few months after launch for $400... consoles aren't one-trick-ponies all the time.

Ease of use is the main reason consoles rule the roost though... the mass market always, ALWAYS, goes for ease of use over quality. If PCs ever become as easy to game on as consoles they could win the majority of the market, but in order to make that happen they will have to curtail many of the things that makes PC better than console in the first place.

Also, developers like the ease of use as well, as far as ease of development. PCs would have to address that as well.
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Old 06-19-09, 01:41 PM   #17
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The fact that the PS3 is also a damn good Blu-Ray player was one of the main reasons I felt it was worth buying a few months after launch for $400... consoles aren't one-trick-ponies all the time.Also, developers like the ease of use as well, as far as ease of development. PCs would have to address that as well.
That should never been in the same post, considering when PS3 was released there were numerous articles how PS3 is a nightmare to develop for.
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The reason consoles exist is because console people are too lazy to use a PC for gaming. Upgrades, maintanence, installation, etc. Consoles thrive because people are just want to just be lazy and stupid.
This is the single most retarded thing I've ever heard a PC fanboy say.

Yeah, the reason I don't use a PC is because I'm too lazy and stupid. Of course. Why didn't you tell me before?
This means I'm too lazy and stupid to have a major in Computer Science with a minor in visual Computing.
It also must mean that the past 3 gaming rigs I've built and maintained are a mistake.

Thank you for helping me see the light.
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This is the single most retarded thing I've ever heard a PC fanboy say.

Yeah, the reason I don't use a PC is because I'm too lazy and stupid. Of course. Why didn't you tell me before?
This means I'm too lazy and stupid to have a major in Computer Science with a minor in visual Computing.
It also must mean that the past 3 gaming rigs I've built and maintained are a mistake.

Thank you for helping me see the light.
truth hurts sometimes. If you have 3 gaming rigs why would you ever use a crappy console?????
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The fact that the PS3 is also a damn good Blu-Ray player was one of the main reasons I felt it was worth buying a few months after launch for $400... consoles aren't one-trick-ponies all the time.

Ease of use is the main reason consoles rule the roost though... the mass market always, ALWAYS, goes for ease of use over quality. If PCs ever become as easy to game on as consoles they could win the majority of the market, but in order to make that happen they will have to curtail many of the things that makes PC better than console in the first place.

Also, developers like the ease of use as well, as far as ease of development. PCs would have to address that as well.
What ease of use? You mean Cell? And developers make games on PC, not on consoles.
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truth hurts sometimes. If you have 3 gaming rigs why would you ever use a crappy console?????
"truth"? That's just your malformed opinion. There are plenty of reasons to use a console, but you're too stubborn to consider any of them. Why even bother talking about it?

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Back to the one trick-pony statement. Recently I upgraded my Q6600 based system to i7. For price of that upgrade I could have bought a PS3, Wii and few games.
But in my book that would not be worth it
You're not wrong, but you're talking about a subjective analysis of value, which is why I said the point was moot. Not that it was stupid or anything.
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I gather the following conclusions from this thread:

Ninjas are smart.

Mailmen... not so much.




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truth hurts sometimes. If you have 3 gaming rigs why would you ever use a crappy console?????
I've built 3 gaming rigs over the years, sequentially. Over the years my interests have shifted and I sold my latest rig and now own an xbox360.
How bizarre is that, huh? People having different opinions and likings. Crazy world we live in.
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Mailmen... not so much.
have shifted and I sold my latest rig and now own an xbox360.
haha you bought an RRoD_Box... and you were calling me 'not smart'??

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