Windows 7 ~ Windows Vista

Elvin Presler · 08-02-09, 12:32 PM

I thought I was going to like Windows 7. Tried out the RTM though and found it is just Vista with a few small, insignificant improvements, like better options in the Defragmenter, and just as many new annoyances, like not remembering window size/position, and being stuck at 59 hertz (not 60) refresh rate no matter what you do. These 2 alone would prevent me from ever using Win7 if not fixed. Some games REQUIRE 60 hertz or they simply will not run. Battlefield series? Halo FFS! I'm not sure if it's Vista or Nvidia but the Nvidia Control Panel is a total mess in WIN7 with many broken or stuck settings.

I did not find it any faster though it may be on a lower end PC. It comes with no email client but half the old Windows Mail program's files are still sitting there...WTF? I don't care if they remove it, but....well REMOVE it, don't just break it.

Homegroups? The new more cumbersome taskbar with zero advantage over the old one? The new "shake the window" feature that drops everything else to minimized? Yeah, you'll need it now that all windows will pile up on top of each other.

ViN86 · 08-02-09, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Elvin Presler

I thought I was going to like Windows 7. Tried out the RTM though and found it is just Vista with a few small, insignificant improvements, like better options in the Defragmenter, and just as many new annoyances, like not remembering window size/position, and being stuck at 59 hertz (not 60) refresh rate no matter what you do. These 2 alone would prevent me from ever using Win7 if not fixed. Some games REQUIRE 60 hertz or they simply will not run. Battlefield series? Halo FFS! I'm not sure if it's Vista or Nvidia but the Nvidia Control Panel is a total mess in WIN7 with many broken or stuck settings.

I did not find it any faster though it may be on a lower end PC. It comes with no email client but half the old Windows Mail program's files are still sitting there...WTF? I don't care if they remove it, but....well REMOVE it, don't just break it.

Homegroups? The new more cumbersome taskbar with zero advantage over the old one? The new "shake the window" feature that drops everything else to minimized? Yeah, you'll need it now that all windows will pile up on top of each other.

Well it is Windows 6.1

Eliminator · 08-02-09, 02:36 PM

i believe the 59hz things is actually 59.97 or something like that and in games ive always seen 60 as an option... but yea i agree that w7 is just vista with a few improvements and its a tad faster... it uses just as much ram and gaming performance is identical to vista

**nekrosoft13** · 08-02-09, 02:41 PM

not stuck in 59 here.

**mullet** · 08-02-09, 02:44 PM

Well I will buy Win 7 for my wife's PC. I have Vista retail so I will just reinstall it, I don't think it is worth me getting retail Win 7. I didn't really notice a performance increase either.

ViN86 · 08-02-09, 02:49 PM

Well Win 7 appears to use less RAM for me. It also seems faster. I re-installed Vista a few weeks ago and after the two SP's, it still wasn't a great experience.

I am glad I pre-ordered Win 7.

08-02-09, 03:35 PM

I'm running 60hz with no problems, then again I'm awesome.

08-02-09, 03:51 PM

I don't know what to say besides keep using it. It's HUGE improvement over Vista.

**bob saget** · 08-02-09, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearclaw

I don't know what to say besides keep using it. It's HUGE improvement over Vista.

Oh rly?

Slammin · 08-02-09, 05:03 PM

And let the pre-whining begin!

08-02-09, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bob saget

Oh rly?

Yes, yes it is. Vista was buggy as hell and still is.

Yes, every enthusiast on this forum can and does get it to work well but point is - the common people using PC's don't. They can barely turn on the computer let alone ATTEMPT anything we discuss on this forum.

Point is - for the average user, it was a pain in the ass. W7 completely re-defines Vista and while it isn't a "new" O/S, it brings a lot to the table, including an easier experience for the end user.

Go with W7. Anyone who wouldn't install it over Vista, well, have fun with Vista. The failed O/S.

Mr Bigman · 08-02-09, 06:34 PM

Im with Bearshank on this one.

Vista is fine and dandy well before sp3 once you spent a thousand trips to google for tips and tricks cuz your that good at it.

7 is a wakeup call to those who forgot about what xp was or what Vista should of been, yea Longhorn right.

I enjoy the new 7 but i love that vista bar alot more.

08-02-09, 12:32 PM	#1
Elvin Presler Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: USA Posts: 633	Windows 7 ~ Windows Vista I thought I was going to like Windows 7. Tried out the RTM though and found it is just Vista with a few small, insignificant improvements, like better options in the Defragmenter, and just as many new annoyances, like not remembering window size/position, and being stuck at 59 hertz (not 60) refresh rate no matter what you do. These 2 alone would prevent me from ever using Win7 if not fixed. Some games REQUIRE 60 hertz or they simply will not run. Battlefield series? Halo FFS! I'm not sure if it's Vista or Nvidia but the Nvidia Control Panel is a total mess in WIN7 with many broken or stuck settings. I did not find it any faster though it may be on a lower end PC. It comes with no email client but half the old Windows Mail program's files are still sitting there...WTF? I don't care if they remove it, but....well REMOVE it, don't just break it. Homegroups? The new more cumbersome taskbar with zero advantage over the old one? The new "shake the window" feature that drops everything else to minimized? Yeah, you'll need it now that all windows will pile up on top of each other.

08-02-09, 02:36 PM	#3
Eliminator The Man With Brisk Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,673	Re: Windows 7 ~ Windows Vista i believe the 59hz things is actually 59.97 or something like that and in games ive always seen 60 as an option... but yea i agree that w7 is just vista with a few improvements and its a tad faster... it uses just as much ram and gaming performance is identical to vista __________________ Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 @ 3.6GHZ Asus P5B Deluxe 4GB OCZ Platinum PC8000 EL BFG GTX 280 OC2 1GB @ 729/1512/2538 Dell 2405FPW 24" 3DMark: Vantage - P15397 \| 06 - 18734

08-02-09, 02:41 PM	#4
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08-02-09, 02:44 PM	#5
mullet Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7,998	Re: Windows 7 ~ Windows Vista Well I will buy Win 7 for my wife's PC. I have Vista retail so I will just reinstall it, I don't think it is worth me getting retail Win 7. I didn't really notice a performance increase either. __________________ • LIAN-LI PC-A70B • ASUS MAXIMUS V FORMULA (0701) • i7-3770k + NOCTUA\|NH-D14 • Intel 520 240GB SSD • G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB DDR3 1600 • • EVGA GeForce GTX 680 • PCP&C 750 Quad • ASUS 12x BD-ROM • DELL U2412M E-IPS • Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 • Logitech Z5500 5.1 •

08-02-09, 02:49 PM	#6
ViN86 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,486	Re: Windows 7 ~ Windows Vista Well Win 7 appears to use less RAM for me. It also seems faster. I re-installed Vista a few weeks ago and after the two SP's, it still wasn't a great experience. I am glad I pre-ordered Win 7.

08-02-09, 03:35 PM	#7
betterdan Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Windows 7 ~ Windows Vista I'm running 60hz with no problems, then again I'm awesome.

08-02-09, 03:51 PM	#8
Bearclaw Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Windows 7 ~ Windows Vista I don't know what to say besides keep using it. It's HUGE improvement over Vista.

08-02-09, 05:03 PM	#10
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08-02-09, 06:34 PM	#12
Mr Bigman Strongest Man On Earth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 4,943	Re: Windows 7 ~ Windows Vista Im with Bearshank on this one. Vista is fine and dandy well before sp3 once you spent a thousand trips to google for tips and tricks cuz your that good at it. 7 is a wakeup call to those who forgot about what xp was or what Vista should of been, yea Longhorn right. I enjoy the new 7 but i love that vista bar alot more. __________________ EVGA X58 Tri SLI Core I 7 3.7Ghz 12 gb corsair DDR3 1600 Three EVGA 285 SLI Antec 1200 Corsiar 1000 HX Power Supply 2 OCZ SSD Hard Drives 4 wd black edition raid 2 setups for 4TB _____________________________ having good looks and a good body is hard work.