Go Back   nV News Forums > Hardware Forums > Home Theater A/V

Newegg Daily Deals

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-15-09, 07:42 AM   #1
technoid
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Denton, Texas
Posts: 505
Default Blu-ray and HDTV

Okay... I admit I don't know a great deal about them but I've been looking around a lot and finally got to see a Blu-ray player at Best Buy playing a movie on a 40" Sony HDTV. What I seen didn't seem that impressive to me so I thought I'd run it by you guys to see if I'm looking at this wrong.

First a question. What resolution does Blu-ray use? All of them? By that I mean does it playback depending on the TV, duh, and output 1080p, 720p, or 1080i.

Second my observations. It seems to me that there were a lot of artifacts in the image, and if I frooze it it just looked very so so to me. I expected a razor sharp image but wasn't impressed with it at all. So is it suppose to look razor shrap?

I guess what I'm mostly looking for is a review of my observations.

I know what I seen was a canned demo, but shouldn't it be an impressive look at Blu-ray?

Thanks for any information you can share with me. I'm getting close to buying an HD setup and since I'm retired now I can't afford to make any mistakes in my choices.
__________________
Antec-SOLO | ASUS-P5Q-SE | C2D-E8600 | AC-Freezer-7-Pro | Seasonic-S12-550W | 3GB-KVR-PC2-6400 | GTX-560Ti | SB-XtremeGamer | Pioneer-BDR-205 | Samsung-S223B | Dell-U2412M
technoid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-09, 08:09 AM   #2
mullet
 
mullet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 8,062
Default Re: Blu-ray and HDTV

Blu Ray plays 1080P, just get a TV that is 1080P which most of all TV's do these days. Yes Blu Ray looks great.
__________________
• LIAN-LI PC-A70B • ASUS MAXIMUS V FORMULA (0701) • i7-3770k + NOCTUA|NH-D14 • Intel 520 240GB SSD • G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB DDR3 1600 •
• EVGA GeForce GTX 680 • PCP&C 750 Quad • ASUS BD-ROM • DELL U2711 H-IPS + DELL 2209WA e-IPS• Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 • Logitech Z5500 5.1 •
mullet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-09, 10:28 AM   #3
technoid
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Denton, Texas
Posts: 505
Default Re: Blu-ray and HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by mullet View Post
Blu Ray plays 1080P, just get a TV that is 1080P which most of all TV's do these days. Yes Blu Ray looks great.
Thanks for the information. So does this mean if I buy a 720p HDTV I can't use a Blu-ray player with it since Blu-ray outputs 1080p?
__________________
Antec-SOLO | ASUS-P5Q-SE | C2D-E8600 | AC-Freezer-7-Pro | Seasonic-S12-550W | 3GB-KVR-PC2-6400 | GTX-560Ti | SB-XtremeGamer | Pioneer-BDR-205 | Samsung-S223B | Dell-U2412M
technoid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-09, 10:32 AM   #4
bacon12
Registered User
 
bacon12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,532
Default Re: Blu-ray and HDTV

Blu rays true superior appeal over DVD is not the picture to me. Its the uncompressed ear candy.

Dolby 5.1 on dvd can't come close to that, but you can get near blu ray picture quality from upscale players.
bacon12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-09, 10:55 AM   #5
technoid
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Denton, Texas
Posts: 505
Default Re: Blu-ray and HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by bacon12 View Post
Blu rays true superior appeal over DVD is not the picture to me. Its the uncompressed ear candy.

Dolby 5.1 on dvd can't come close to that, but you can get near blu ray picture quality from upscale players.
Thanks a lot for your perspective. I just got through doing a google search on blu-ray and found out quite a bit, and it's interesting to note that I seen comments like yours several times in other forums. I know this is terrible to say but for us the video quality is the only important thing, we sold our home theater audio equipment and now watch tv in the bedroom only. (the reason for this is my wife is severely disabled and is a chronic pain patient, so for the most part she lives in bed) So the audio is just the tv speakers. I think going with a good upscaling dvd player might be the right thing for us, do you have any suggestions on the make and model?

On the subject of upscaling dvd players, do they work better on a 720p or 1080p TV?
__________________
Antec-SOLO | ASUS-P5Q-SE | C2D-E8600 | AC-Freezer-7-Pro | Seasonic-S12-550W | 3GB-KVR-PC2-6400 | GTX-560Ti | SB-XtremeGamer | Pioneer-BDR-205 | Samsung-S223B | Dell-U2412M
technoid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-09, 11:06 AM   #6
bacon12
Registered User
 
bacon12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,532
Default Re: Blu-ray and HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by technoid View Post
Thanks a lot for your perspective. I just got through doing a google search on blu-ray and found out quite a bit, and it's interesting to note that I seen comments like yours several times in other forums. I know this is terrible to say but for us the video quality is the only important thing, we sold our home theater audio equipment and now watch tv in the bedroom only. (the reason for this is my wife is severely disabled and is a chronic pain patient, so for the most part she lives in bed) So the audio is just the tv speakers. I think going with a good upscaling dvd player might be the right thing for us, do you have any suggestions on the make and model?

On the subject of upscaling dvd players, do they work better on a 720p or 1080p TV?
I have no experience with stand alone players I use a pc so have only dealt with power dvd/nvidia pure video. Also not sure about which would be better 720 or 1080, but you can feel that you upgrade would be more future proof with 1080 and is what I would suggest.

I really do feel you are on the right track, and would suggest blu ray if the prices of disks, and players were to fall to reasonable levels. But if you have a netflix sub, which I suggest for any movie buff then its still a viable option.
bacon12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-09, 11:33 AM   #7
technoid
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Denton, Texas
Posts: 505
Default Re: Blu-ray and HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by bacon12 View Post
I have no experience with stand alone players I use a pc so have only dealt with power dvd/nvidia pure video. Also not sure about which would be better 720 or 1080, but you can feel that you upgrade would be more future proof with 1080 and is what I would suggest.

I really do feel you are on the right track, and would suggest blu ray if the prices of disks, and players were to fall to reasonable levels. But if you have a netflix sub, which I suggest for any movie buff then its still a viable option.
Thanks again. Yes I think a 1080p is the best way to go too so that's what I'll most likely do. We have a Netflix account and I'm going to take a look at their blu-ray collection soon. We also watch a few movies off the internet, which is just so so. But it's free.
__________________
Antec-SOLO | ASUS-P5Q-SE | C2D-E8600 | AC-Freezer-7-Pro | Seasonic-S12-550W | 3GB-KVR-PC2-6400 | GTX-560Ti | SB-XtremeGamer | Pioneer-BDR-205 | Samsung-S223B | Dell-U2412M
technoid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-09, 01:08 AM   #8
tnava
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1
Default Re: Blu-ray and HDTV

I suggest that you read the reviews especially the ones coming from the experts if you want to have an idea on which is the best LCD TV that fits your budget. That's what I did when I bought my 32" samsung LCD TV six months ago. It's the best way to get the best bang for your buck in my opinion.
tnava is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 09-22-09, 11:27 AM   #9
ViN86
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 15,486
Default Re: Blu-ray and HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by technoid View Post
Thanks for the information. So does this mean if I buy a 720p HDTV I can't use a Blu-ray player with it since Blu-ray outputs 1080p?
Yes you can, but the player will only output 720p.
ViN86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-09, 03:07 PM   #10
nrdstrm
 
nrdstrm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Staples Center
Posts: 1,677
Default Re: Blu-ray and HDTV

I don't know that I agree with Bacon12 on the video part (the audio part is obviously established). When I compare Casino Royale, the blu ray is significantly better than the same DVD upscaled (by the same player). In my case it is a PS3, and it does a good job on both blu-rays and upscaling from what I read. So in my opinion, the video output is substantially better on BR.

As for resolution, I would say try to find a 1080p set, as tests have shown BR to look marginally better on 1080p vs. 720p (I have only ever had a 1080, so I can't confirm this myself). Size would also matter. If your getting say a 32" or smaller, I don't think 1080p matters much...
__________________


On Any Given Sunday!
nrdstrm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-09, 04:43 AM   #11
DJMONDY
Registered User
 
DJMONDY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,050
Default Re: Blu-ray and HDTV

I would read some reviews on tv's that are in your price range and go for the best 1080p tv you can get. at least then you will know you have the best that you can afford, which is what i did.

I have the Sony 40W2000 which is very highly recommended in most reviews and is a few years old now so can be picked up very cheap brand new. im not sure where you are but this set in the UK can be bought for around £500 these days and its one hell of a good tv...trust me.

Good place to start for reviews: http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/television...02139,1,00.htm

I know this probably isnt what your looking for and i dont know what your price range is but i would also recommend buying a PS3 for watching Blu-Ray and upscaling your old dvd's. it upscales dvd's really well and it does everything you want it to really. with the new slim ps3 just being released the older ps3's are cheaper again and i would think its one of the best Blu-Ray players available for the price.

To answer your question about quality it really does depend on the setup and what film was being displayed and how the store set it all up. some films look amazing and some just look grainy and awfull. alot of new films these days do look impressive on blu-ray but its best to just buy new releases on blu-ray and stick to buying most older films on dvd and just let the player upscale it. ive made the mistake a few times thinking a blu-ray release of a film made in 1980 would look amazing and trust me it just doesnt, the picture does look a bit better but nothing compared to a new film released on blu-ray.

Good place for blu-ray reviews: http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/reviews.html

If they say the picture quality and sound quality is 4-5 stars they are usually spot on. anything less i just buy on dvd.
__________________
POV GeForce GTX 680 2048MB (Sli in future )
Samsung Green 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel
Intel Core i7 3770K 3.50GHz @ 4.60GHz Ivybridge CPU
Gigabyte Z77X-D3H Intel Z77
OCZ Petrol 128GB SSD - MS Windows 7 64Bit
500GB HDD - Windows XP
250GB HDD - Windows Vista

SStone 850W PFC PSU QuadSLi
Sony 52HX903 3DTV
DJMONDY is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:09 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1998 - 2014, nV News.