Windows install smooth? It's a NIGHTMARE! - Page 3

fugu_fish · 11-05-09, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptNKILL

I recommend downloading a diagnostic CD to test your ram with memtest.

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/index.html

I had blue screens during the windows 7 install and it was due to a stick of ram that was bad. I'd been using that ram for two years without blue screens in Vista. I guess 7 is just more sensitive to bad memory.

Yes +1. Any BSODs during install are 99.9 % hardware related. Bad ram, improperly seated HSF, etc.

**lduguay** · 11-05-09, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Redeemed

Seems like an appropriate topic...

How well does it handle installing to a RAID array?

Did an upgrade from Vista 64 Ultimate to W7 64 Ultimate on my RAID 0 array.
Took about 30 minutes, absolutely no problem what-so-ever. And i did the upgrade with my system overclocked.

**lduguay** · 11-05-09, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamrock

... I enter my CD Key and when I press Next I get a bluescreen! It doesn't even explain why! All I know is the stop code was 0x0000007e.

... Ready for this? It BSOD's without warning, and without cause!

...I have read up a little bit on some of these errors, and it points to a failing UPS system. I tried it, and it works fine. I even drained the battery by letting my monitor suck the power down.

That got me going for at least 10 minutes, thank for the

**Shamrock** · 11-05-09, 09:19 PM

What do you mean? It didn't explain it. You know like "IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" It only gave the stop code. I had to hunt down the stop code to identify it.

But it turns out, it's NOT a failing UPS system, it was my chipset drivers. Read post #24

**Shamrock** · 11-06-09, 08:55 PM

I found the most awesome little utility you can get if you are having troubles!

bluescreenview

It analyzed my memory dump, and I have a common BSOD called "KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED" in ntoskrnl.exe and ndis.sys

Both MS modules. Then it dawned it on me...if MS drivers are BSOD'ing, it has to be hardware.

I am going to explain this the best way I can.
My OCZ Reaper RAM is rated 7-7-7 @1.9v. My Ram is 1600Mhz @ 1.9v (standard!),but on my mobo BIOS, 1.9v is IN THE RED! But normal for my ram. The only thing I can tell is my mobo is telling Win7 that I have EXTREME overclocking, and it's BSOD on me. SOOO....

I am currently running my RAM on Memtest for 1333Mhz @1.75v and 1.8v. I will try that and re-install Win7, yet again. Cross yer fingers.

It ran SOLID for 4 hours at 1066mhz @1.6v.

UberRN69 · 11-07-09, 10:44 AM

I don't know if this appiles in your case or not, but when I first DL'd the RTM version off of a torrent, and burned the ISO image to a DVD disk using the FASTEST rate possilbe. I was getting BSOD's like crazy on install, no matter how many times I tried.

After some research I went back and burned an ISO image using the SLOWEST rate possible, I also DL's the file directly from my TechNet account (finally got around to purchasing one) -it fixed the problem right away.

So EVEN though you used an actuall OEM disk, you might want to try to use someone else's install disk. It wouldn't be the first time someone received a bad disk or the last.

**K007** · 11-07-09, 06:05 PM

err............................................... ...... torrent.....?

3777 · 11-07-09, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ViN86

Who uses IDE anymore

As a matter of fact sir ........

Though I am considering a Hitachi SATA 500gb or 1 pterodactyl drive.

Of note, the only time I ever got blue screen stack dump errors during an OS install, it was the result of a bad hard drive.

**munkus** · 11-08-09, 12:48 AM

Call me crazy, but when will MS change their error codes from IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL to something like "Your hard drive is toast" or "Your RAM is fubar"? It's not nearly as sexy as IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL but it'll make troubleshooting easier.

Sean_W · 11-08-09, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fugu_fish

Yes +1. Any BSODs during install are 99.9 % hardware related. Bad ram, improperly seated HSF, etc.

I cannot see how one OS can be more sensitive to hardware or not. The OS is not hardware diagnosis software, just like a regular doctor is no brain surgeon.

You cannot really get out of the situation if the OS says it's bad, if it says the hardware is bad (when really it's not) there is nothing you can do.

**Shamrock** · 11-11-09, 09:54 PM

Well, after underclocking my ram to 1333Mhz, I CANNOT BSOD now, it's super stable. I love the customization Win7 has.

But I can't for the life me wonder why WinXP didn't mind the ram at spec speeds, but Win7 can't stand it.

Sazar · 11-11-09, 10:28 PM

XP also doesn't mind unstability, random crashes, viruses and other items too

11-05-09, 09:19 PM	#28
Shamrock Royalty gone awry Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,597	Re: Windows install smooth? It's a NIGHTMARE! What do you mean? It didn't explain it. You know like "IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" It only gave the stop code. I had to hunt down the stop code to identify it. But it turns out, it's NOT a failing UPS system, it was my chipset drivers. Read post #24 __________________ They're after me Lucky Charms! AMD Phenom II 955BE 16GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3 1333Mhz Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 Logitech Z-5300 5.1 THX surround sound HANNS-G 28" LCD ZBoard Merc Gaming Keyboard CoolerMaster HAF-932 Full Tower Case Windows 7 Pro x64

11-06-09, 08:55 PM	#29
Shamrock Royalty gone awry Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,597	Re: Windows install smooth? It's a NIGHTMARE! I found the most awesome little utility you can get if you are having troubles! bluescreenview It analyzed my memory dump, and I have a common BSOD called "KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED" in ntoskrnl.exe and ndis.sys Both MS modules. Then it dawned it on me...if MS drivers are BSOD'ing, it has to be hardware. I am going to explain this the best way I can. My OCZ Reaper RAM is rated 7-7-7 @1.9v. My Ram is 1600Mhz @ 1.9v (standard!),but on my mobo BIOS, 1.9v is IN THE RED! But normal for my ram. The only thing I can tell is my mobo is telling Win7 that I have EXTREME overclocking, and it's BSOD on me. SOOO.... I am currently running my RAM on Memtest for 1333Mhz @1.75v and 1.8v. I will try that and re-install Win7, yet again. Cross yer fingers. It ran SOLID for 4 hours at 1066mhz @1.6v. __________________ They're after me Lucky Charms! AMD Phenom II 955BE 16GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3 1333Mhz Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 Logitech Z-5300 5.1 THX surround sound HANNS-G 28" LCD ZBoard Merc Gaming Keyboard CoolerMaster HAF-932 Full Tower Case Windows 7 Pro x64

11-07-09, 10:44 AM	#30
UberRN69 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Saratoga Springs, Utah Posts: 230	Re: Windows install smooth? It's a NIGHTMARE! I don't know if this appiles in your case or not, but when I first DL'd the RTM version off of a torrent, and burned the ISO image to a DVD disk using the FASTEST rate possilbe. I was getting BSOD's like crazy on install, no matter how many times I tried. After some research I went back and burned an ISO image using the SLOWEST rate possible, I also DL's the file directly from my TechNet account (finally got around to purchasing one) -it fixed the problem right away. So EVEN though you used an actuall OEM disk, you might want to try to use someone else's install disk. It wouldn't be the first time someone received a bad disk or the last. __________________ Lian-Li Case, MSI 890FXA-GD70, AMD Phenom II 965BE OC'd @ 3.9GHz with ZALMAN CNPS9900ALED, OCZ AMD Black Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1600, XFX HD 5870 1GB with AC Accelero Twin Turbo Pro @ 920/1250, X-Fi XtremeGamer, WD Caviar Black 500GB x2 in RAID 0, WD Caviar Black 500GB for Backup, Pioneer DVR-115DBK & LG Blu-Ray GGC-H20LK, KINGWIN LZG-700 GOLD 700W, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit

11-07-09, 06:05 PM	#31
K007 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Australia, Sydney Posts: 9,405	Re: Windows install smooth? It's a NIGHTMARE! err............................................... ...... torrent.....?

11-08-09, 12:48 AM	#33
munkus Cold nose, warm heart Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,558	Re: Windows install smooth? It's a NIGHTMARE! Call me crazy, but when will MS change their error codes from IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL to something like "Your hard drive is toast" or "Your RAM is fubar"? It's not nearly as sexy as IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL but it'll make troubleshooting easier.

11-11-09, 09:54 PM	#35
Shamrock Royalty gone awry Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,597	Re: Windows install smooth? It's a NIGHTMARE! Well, after underclocking my ram to 1333Mhz, I CANNOT BSOD now, it's super stable. I love the customization Win7 has. But I can't for the life me wonder why WinXP didn't mind the ram at spec speeds, but Win7 can't stand it. __________________ They're after me Lucky Charms! AMD Phenom II 955BE 16GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3 1333Mhz Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 Logitech Z-5300 5.1 THX surround sound HANNS-G 28" LCD ZBoard Merc Gaming Keyboard CoolerMaster HAF-932 Full Tower Case Windows 7 Pro x64

11-11-09, 10:28 PM	#36
Sazar Sayonara !!! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 9,297	Re: Windows install smooth? It's a NIGHTMARE! XP also doesn't mind unstability, random crashes, viruses and other items too __________________ Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home - Is it in you?