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Old 11-18-09, 12:48 AM   #13
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That restriction is going to be lifted in the next release, unless there's some major problem found at the last minute.
Excellent.. Looking forward to it

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Do all of those use h.264 video? For the ones with play buttons, I would hope that the implementation deferred allocating the VDPAU device until you click play.
I don't know what codec they are using... I'm talking about the ads on this site.. May not be using h264 there...
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Old 11-18-09, 01:38 AM   #14
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I'm not so sure it uses DxVA... I think it's CUDA or OpenCL... Which means it should eventually work in Linux...
No it doesn't.
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Old 11-18-09, 05:46 AM   #15
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VDPAU wouldn't be very suitable anyway. As of today, it only supports the decoding of one video at a time.
Did you miss http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...33&postcount=4?

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Old 11-18-09, 06:42 AM   #16
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I did ..
Thanks for the link
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Old 11-18-09, 06:55 AM   #17
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Luckily you don't have to use flash to play youtube vids. I'm using a combination of these two scripts: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/50771, http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/60977 + gnome-mplayer and I can play everything natively in an embedded window with VDPAU acceleration.
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Old 11-18-09, 08:09 AM   #18
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The flash ads are made using vector graphics - this is not movie. That is why they load faster than movie content. Adobe could provide full hardware acceleration for flash on Linux if they would like. But for unknown (money?) reason they prefer to present Linux as underdeveloped, buggy and hanging platform.
Acceleration path for flash:
Vector graphics === flash-player->cairo library->XRender->nvidia driver->Geforce card
(firefox3 already uses cairo for page rendering)
Movies h.264 === flash-player->VDPAU library->nvidia driver->Geforce card

Pretty simple. Adobe always looked as liars and dumb developers to me.
Since first release of VDPAU I and many other people are flooding Adobe's penguin.swf blog, Adobe forums and every other way of Adobe contact for adding VDPAU acceleration to flash player. They got wikipedia links for XRender long time ago, recently VDPAU and some time ago a link to cairo site to learn what these APIs are and do. Then links to API docs was sent to help them use these APIs.
After all of this they lie in official document that there is no API on Linux for h.264 acceleration. Very sad.
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Old 11-18-09, 11:18 AM   #19
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There is a thread on the adobe forums requesting VDPAU support on Linux:

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/525931?tstart=0

It might be worth people reading this adding their voices to that thread.

I'm really surprised given that there has been a lot of press about NVIDIA working with Adobe on flash 10.1 that there isn't any support for VDPAU, and their claim that:

"Linux currently lacks a developed standard API that supports H.264 hardware video decoding"

seems very odd given the rapid adoption and uptake of VDPAU. Yes XvMC doesn't do h.264 but there is an alternative.

I'm very disappointed, I thought this would solve my problems with the BBC iPlayer on my ION system. But seemingly not
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Old 11-18-09, 12:20 PM   #20
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Talk about egg on Adobe's face, and this is a company that's supposedly working "close" with NVIDIA? And never heard of VDPAU?
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Old 11-18-09, 03:25 PM   #21
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Luckily you don't have to use flash to play youtube vids. I'm using a combination of these two scripts: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/50771, http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/60977 + gnome-mplayer and I can play everything natively in an embedded window with VDPAU acceleration.
This seems like the perfect solution! So I am trying this out but I ran into some strange snags...

First when I set the video output to vdpau and something covers the player I get a permanent gray shape covering the video and if I scroll down and back up it's all gray... Though xv output works...

Second, when I add the vdpau codecs to .mplayer/config it doesn't play at all...
This is my vc line:
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vc=ffmpeg12vdpau,ffwmv3vdpau,ffvc1vdpau,ffh264vdpau,
Little help please?
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Old 11-18-09, 03:32 PM   #22
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Get us a bug-report created with nvidia-bug-report.sh and attach mplayer's log here.
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Old 11-18-09, 04:04 PM   #23
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Get us a bug-report created with nvidia-bug-report.sh and attach mplayer's log here.
EDIT: oh I thought it ran with mplayer...
I got the report and trying to figure out how to attach it.
As for the mplayer log I don't know how to get that as it's embedded into the browser...
EDIT: I uploaded it to sendspace.
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Old 11-18-09, 04:22 PM   #24
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Make sure you've checkmarked "use verbose debugging" in gnome-mplayer prefs (if it's your player) and then copy the playback-related messages from ~/.xsession-errors file.
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