So Many XP Users Still

Mr Bigman · 12-17-09, 02:11 PM

Im suprised their so many still using xp, why?

You only get 3 gigs or usuage from ram and no dx 10 for 11 so why hold on?

Sazar · 12-17-09, 02:16 PM

Not everyone is as rich as you Biggie

Plus many are perfectly happy with the OS they have

Btw the 3GB "limit" is a function of a 32-bit operating system, not Windows XP. All 32-bit operating systems not using PAE extensions and stuff have the same limitation.

Gimlis · 12-17-09, 08:14 PM

On the Flip side, given that with XP 2gb of ram is sufficient under most circumstances.
why move to Vista or Win 7 ?

**Starscream** · 12-17-09, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Bigman

Im suprised their so many still using xp, why?

You only get 3 gigs or usuage from ram and no dx 10 for 11 so why hold on?

The average computer user does not care in the least about any of those features.

People are still using XP because it works well. It's as simple as that.

JasonPC · 12-18-09, 12:31 AM

Vista and Windows 7 are making a dent. The steam hardware survey is a pretty good indicator. It showed that finally Windows XP was under 50% marketshare. It also showed a steeper decline in Windows Vista users (percentage wise) because the majority of Windows 7 upgrades came from Windows Vista. But ever so slowly XP's marketshare is shrinking just a bit. I know Steam is primarily a gamer-based audience but I'm assuming that's who we're talking about here since it's obvious why many businesses and casual PC users are happy with XP. One interesting thing that the steam survey showed is a lot of gamers have DX10 capable cards now but nearly half are still using XP! I'm not sure if that means Vista flopped more than DX10 or DX10 flopped more than Vista?

dncornholio · 12-18-09, 08:12 AM

Simply put, M$ charges too much for an OS. I'd like to see them be stripped of their welfare from the state (patent laws) and ultimately be forced to lower prices or go out of business.

frenchy2k1 · 12-18-09, 12:28 PM

Upgrades are always a minority in computer change.
People change OS when they change computer. Win7 will grow as people renew their computers, but as most people dont need to do that very often (you can keep a computer 5+ years if all you do is web, email and a bit of online video), it will take a long time.
I dont need to drop MS $100 for the privilege of trying their new OS, while my current one fill up all my needs. Same with DX10/11. My GF card supports it, but it would cost me 2 games to enable it (by Vista/7). Why? There is very little improvement in graphic quality from DX9+ and a heavy hit on frame rates.

Lyme · 12-18-09, 12:38 PM

Because a significant number of really large businesses are just finishing upgrading to Vista now. My work, 5000+ desktops/laptops, will be finished the Vista roll out by the end of the month.

At home, I moved off xp ages ago and would not imagine going back.

**DiscipleDOC** · 12-18-09, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dncornholio

Simply put, M$ charges too much for an OS. I'd like to see them be stripped of their welfare from the state (patent laws) and ultimately be forced to lower prices or go out of business.

Or, they will be forced to move to another country where the laws are not as tight, like a lot of companies have done. Your logic (along with your attempt to bypass your perma-ban) is flawed.

Nice try kevpla, but you've failed (once again). Please don't come back.

**XDanger** · 12-18-09, 01:59 PM

New PC's have 7 so things will change more now.

And theres no percieved reason to offer the public XP unlike during Vista's short spell.

technoid · 12-19-09, 08:07 AM

I still use Windows XP and will probably continue to do so even though I bought Windows 7 Pro to try out. For me the reason is I don't like the new interface, it's total eye candy with too much flash trash. Now I like the MAC interface but WinVista and Win7 seem like flash trash without substance. I bought WinVista Ultimate from a friend that worked for Microsoft for DX10 but never used it, so Win7 may end up with the same fate. Everything I read about DX10 was less frame rate with marginal gains in appearance, so no thanks.

Go figure... I was a Engineering Technician, then a HW Engineer, then a SW Engineer and always liked High Tech Anything, but the latest technology just leaves me cold. My last job with Texas Instruments was with the Wireless Computing division and the current cell phone craze seems childish to me. I just want a phone, not a wireless everything toy. But I'm sure I'm wrong about that, 50 ga-zillion people buying them can't be wrong

The 3GB limit is okay for me since I don't do that many things at the same time to need more memory. I'm even sticking with a Core 2 Duo E8600 for my next build, which is in the closet waiting to be put together. I like the lower power requirements of the C2D, the top processor is still only 65 Watts.

I can't tell you how much money I spent before I retired upgrading computers, but now I game very little (not many good pc games anyway) so the upgrade in the closet may be my last one for a LONG TIME.

Bah! · 12-19-09, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by technoid

I still use Windows XP and will probably continue to do so even though I bought Windows 7 Pro to try out. For me the reason is I don't like the new interface, it's total eye candy with too much flash trash. Now I like the MAC interface but WinVista and Win7 seem like flash trash without substance.

You realize you could disable all of that "flash trash" and have an OS that looked and felt like XP but would still be better? Saying that Win 7 is without substance because they made it look better in the process of making it better overall doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

I do agree with you and the whole cell phone craze, though.

12-17-09, 02:11 PM	#1
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12-17-09, 02:16 PM	#2
Sazar Sayonara !!! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 9,297	Re: So Many XP Users Still Not everyone is as rich as you Biggie Plus many are perfectly happy with the OS they have Btw the 3GB "limit" is a function of a 32-bit operating system, not Windows XP. All 32-bit operating systems not using PAE extensions and stuff have the same limitation. __________________ Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home - Is it in you?

12-17-09, 08:14 PM	#3
Gimlis Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 50	Re: So Many XP Users Still On the Flip side, given that with XP 2gb of ram is sufficient under most circumstances. why move to Vista or Win 7 ?

12-18-09, 12:31 AM	#5
JasonPC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,103	Re: So Many XP Users Still Vista and Windows 7 are making a dent. The steam hardware survey is a pretty good indicator. It showed that finally Windows XP was under 50% marketshare. It also showed a steeper decline in Windows Vista users (percentage wise) because the majority of Windows 7 upgrades came from Windows Vista. But ever so slowly XP's marketshare is shrinking just a bit. I know Steam is primarily a gamer-based audience but I'm assuming that's who we're talking about here since it's obvious why many businesses and casual PC users are happy with XP. One interesting thing that the steam survey showed is a lot of gamers have DX10 capable cards now but nearly half are still using XP! I'm not sure if that means Vista flopped more than DX10 or DX10 flopped more than Vista?

12-18-09, 08:12 AM	#6
dncornholio BANNED Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2	Re: So Many XP Users Still Simply put, M$ charges too much for an OS. I'd like to see them be stripped of their welfare from the state (patent laws) and ultimately be forced to lower prices or go out of business. Last edited by dncornholio; 12-18-09 at 08:13 AM. Reason: clarification

12-18-09, 12:28 PM	#7
frenchy2k1 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 446	Re: So Many XP Users Still Upgrades are always a minority in computer change. People change OS when they change computer. Win7 will grow as people renew their computers, but as most people dont need to do that very often (you can keep a computer 5+ years if all you do is web, email and a bit of online video), it will take a long time. I dont need to drop MS $100 for the privilege of trying their new OS, while my current one fill up all my needs. Same with DX10/11. My GF card supports it, but it would cost me 2 games to enable it (by Vista/7). Why? There is very little improvement in graphic quality from DX9+ and a heavy hit on frame rates. __________________ As the universe is curved, there cannot be a straight answer...

12-18-09, 12:38 PM	#8
Lyme Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,682	Re: So Many XP Users Still Because a significant number of really large businesses are just finishing upgrading to Vista now. My work, 5000+ desktops/laptops, will be finished the Vista roll out by the end of the month. At home, I moved off xp ages ago and would not imagine going back.

12-18-09, 01:59 PM	#10
XDanger Whaaat? Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 5,674	Re: So Many XP Users Still New PC's have 7 so things will change more now. And theres no percieved reason to offer the public XP unlike during Vista's short spell. __________________ 2500K 4.4ghz,P8P67Pro,120gb Force3, 12gb Vengeance,HD6950,TX850v2,W7HP,LaCie Blue 22" crt COMMODORE 64 Silver Label 1Mhz/128D 4Mhz(Z80)

12-19-09, 08:07 AM	#11
technoid Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Denton, Texas Posts: 505	Re: So Many XP Users Still I still use Windows XP and will probably continue to do so even though I bought Windows 7 Pro to try out. For me the reason is I don't like the new interface, it's total eye candy with too much flash trash. Now I like the MAC interface but WinVista and Win7 seem like flash trash without substance. I bought WinVista Ultimate from a friend that worked for Microsoft for DX10 but never used it, so Win7 may end up with the same fate. Everything I read about DX10 was less frame rate with marginal gains in appearance, so no thanks. Go figure... I was a Engineering Technician, then a HW Engineer, then a SW Engineer and always liked High Tech Anything, but the latest technology just leaves me cold. My last job with Texas Instruments was with the Wireless Computing division and the current cell phone craze seems childish to me. I just want a phone, not a wireless everything toy. But I'm sure I'm wrong about that, 50 ga-zillion people buying them can't be wrong The 3GB limit is okay for me since I don't do that many things at the same time to need more memory. I'm even sticking with a Core 2 Duo E8600 for my next build, which is in the closet waiting to be put together. I like the lower power requirements of the C2D, the top processor is still only 65 Watts. I can't tell you how much money I spent before I retired upgrading computers, but now I game very little (not many good pc games anyway) so the upgrade in the closet may be my last one for a LONG TIME. __________________ Antec-SOLO \| ASUS-P5Q-SE \| C2D-E8600 \| AC-Freezer-7-Pro \| Seasonic-S12-550W \| 3GB-KVR-PC2-6400 \| GTX-560Ti \| SB-XtremeGamer \| Pioneer-BDR-205 \| Samsung-S223B \| Dell-U2412M