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Old 12-21-09, 07:08 PM   #1
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Default I7 Upgrade, few questions

Ive just started looking into components for an I7 upgrade

I will be upgrading from :

QX9650 Quad (water cooled ill talk about this in a second)
EVGA 790i ultra SLi
Triple SLI GTX280's
Corsair HX1000 PSU
Corsair TW3X4G1333C9DHX (4 X 2gb sticks) guessing this is no good for i7 9x series
Cosmos S case

Now for the questions...

Q1.
Im thinking of going for the I7 950 and perhaps an Asus Rampage II Extreme S1366 Intel X58 or Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5
with 12gb Corsair HX3X12G1333C9 or TR3X6G1600C7

what do you think on the motherboard choices ?


Q2.
Originally I had a Q6600 from packard bell, which used the following water cooling system http://www.asetek.com/content/view/381/166/

Im not sure if this is suitable for an I7 in terms of connections to the board around the cpu, although it does seem extremely similar to the one they manufacture (I think) for corsair http://www.asetek.com/content/view/471/229/

Does anybody have any more info, has anybody used the stock water cooler provided with a Packard bell power, with an I7 ? It does a good job of cooling my QX9650

Thanks in advance...
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Old 12-21-09, 08:14 PM   #2
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Default Re: I7 Upgrade, few questions

For starters, Gigabyte have an excellent solid lineup of i7 boards, and pretty much all up from the UD3R are known to overclock very well. I have a random very rare glitch on mine, but it's not a huge deal, and I may RMA later, but like I said, it's not a problem. I was able to hit 4.0Ghz on stock voltages.
As for the upgrade, last gen Quad cores are not THAT far behind the i7. If you feel you are being "slowed down" with the programs you run, then upgrade for sure, but I know a Q9550 is very close to i7.
I have no idea about water cooling, I have never done it.
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Old 12-21-09, 08:27 PM   #3
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Default Re: I7 Upgrade, few questions

Thanks, I have been reading a bit more this evening and am swaying towards the gigabyte board...
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Old 12-21-09, 11:04 PM   #4
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Honestly, why are you upgrading?

That's a fantastic setup you've already got, and it's going to be fantastic for several years before it becomes terribly obsolete. You're not going to see a very big gain moving to an i7 setup from what you're on right now. The Core 2 Quads are about 10% slower clock for clock than the i7's are for gaming.

I'm on a little tighter budget than you are apparently, but if I were you, I'd save my pennies and wait for the 6 and 8 core CPUs that are just around the corner. It's just not worth the money for such a small performance increase.
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Old 12-22-09, 04:44 AM   #5
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Well there's one reasons... I have 2 machines for local lan racing, with playseat setups & g25's
My main machine is also used for a lot of virtual machine usage when its not play-time.

The other machine is now getting a bit tired, so with my old parts I plan on building another system solely for gaming, playing such as NFS shift, Dirt 2 etc then the older machine giving it the kids to do what they want with. Nothing will be going to waste, that's for sure !
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Old 12-22-09, 09:03 AM   #6
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Default Re: I7 Upgrade, few questions

As for Q1: I have that Asus Extreme mobo, and I am really pleased with it. Nice overclocker, very stable, a lot of bells and whistles...
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I see. Well if nothing is going to waste and you just need to create another system, then yes, that's a great processor. Usually when people say "Upgrade," it means they're going to scrap the old parts for newer ones, and in that case, it's just not worth the price premium. If you're giving the old setup to your kids, they will be very happy with that system.
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Old 12-22-09, 02:58 PM   #8
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After more digging and reading, here's my final list...

Intel Core i7 950
ASUS P6T6 WS Revolution X58
Corsair CWCH50-1 Cooling Hydro Series H50
Corsair 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz XMS3 Dominator TR3X6G1600C8D

I decided against the rampage due to the PCIe x16, x8, x8 whereas the Revolution allows PCIe x16, x16, x16

I also decided it was worth a shot to get the Corsair H50, I can then leave the current WC on the QX9650, its doing its job on that.
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Old 12-22-09, 03:14 PM   #9
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Default Re: I7 Upgrade, few questions

Unless you're simply after benchmarks, air cooling will put you at the I7's realistic performance threshold.

I clocked my 920 to 3.5ghz, ran benchmarks, ran them again @ 3.75 and noticed a nice bump in benchmark scores. Ran them again @ 4 and saw another nice increase. Anything past that was minimal score increases and I only got it to run a benchmark @ 4.25. Anything past that and it would freeze or refuse to boot and the temps were still in the mid/high 40's *C.

Just pointing out my experience as the H20 may not be necessary unless you like the way it looks? the Noctua or TRUE will get you the same, if not lower temps as well.
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Ive been quite impressed with the OEM asustek unit so far.

I thought about the noctua, but it will more than likely get in the way of the side fan / internal brackets on the cosmos case, whereas the H50 will fit quite snug (well the OEM one I have does anyway) besides, the H50 is only 10 more.

I was also thinking it would allow more airflow around the northbridge, rather than directing all airflow directly through the processor section but i have no experience with coolers like those.. it was just a thought.
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Ive been quite impressed with the OEM asustek unit so far.

I thought about the noctua, but it will more than likely get in the way of the side fan / internal brackets on the cosmos case, whereas the H50 will fit quite snug (well the OEM one I have does anyway) besides, the H50 is only 10 more.

I was also thinking it would allow more airflow around the northbridge, rather than directing all airflow directly through the processor section but i have no experience with coolers like those.. it was just a thought.
A $5 coolermaster fan (or equivalent) will be more than adequate

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ter-_-35103155

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