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Old 03-06-10, 01:07 AM   #13
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i don't know how anyone of u guys can call nvidia drivers better after the last release.

ATi drivers have been very good so far.
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Old 03-06-10, 01:17 AM   #14
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i don't know how anyone of u guys can call nvidia drivers better after the last release.
You mean this one ?

Pretty incredible, to say the least. That's a new low.

I'm a firm believer that most people simply don't know how to cool a case, but to have a driver actually stop the fan from spinning on the card when under load.. wow.
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Old 03-06-10, 07:12 AM   #15
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That's an incredible QA failure, but actually it's just one failure. As compared to an incredible, ongoing fail
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Old 03-06-10, 08:03 AM   #16
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That's an incredible QA failure, but actually it's just one failure. As compared to an incredible, ongoing fail
please clarify
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Grey screen of death?
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Old 03-06-10, 08:45 AM   #18
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Old 03-06-10, 08:59 AM   #19
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I didn't even mean that one specifically, but thanks for the backup:
http://semiaccurate.com/2010/02/01/a...x-coming-soon/
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1496547
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Old 03-06-10, 09:21 AM   #20
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Also, 2D on HD5xxx is pathetic atm
"The GeForce GTX 285 runs as much as 11 times faster than ATI's Radeon HD 5870. Worse yet, an on-board graphics processor from a two year-old $50 motherboard bests this $400 graphics card by an order of magnitude"

But it will be fixed with Catalyst 10.4 they say

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...di,2539-9.html
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17966/1/
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You guys need some perspective.

There's quite a gap between a grey screen of death popping up maybe once every week or two and a driver that literally STOPS your fan from spinning on your card and causes it to overheat and, in some cases, DIE.

When was the last time that ATI released a driver that they had to REMOVE from their site because the issue was so serious?
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Old 03-06-10, 11:12 AM   #22
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Also, 2D on HD5xxx is pathetic atm
"The GeForce GTX 285 runs as much as 11 times faster than ATI's Radeon HD 5870. Worse yet, an on-board graphics processor from a two year-old $50 motherboard bests this $400 graphics card by an order of magnitude"

But it will be fixed with Catalyst 10.4 they say

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...di,2539-9.html
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17966/1/
Good thing you bought a $400 3D card for 2D performance then...
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Old 03-06-10, 01:24 PM   #23
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Good thing you bought a $400 3D card for 2D performance then...
No, I pay for a total package ... my graphics card has to be able to do more than just perform in 3D games
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Old 03-06-10, 02:41 PM   #24
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No offense, but I grow weary of those who expect ATI and the CCC to function just like the Nvidia control panel.

In regards to AA "not working" for Nvidia guys who have migrated to ATI...

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...66&postcount=7

AA works in most games just fine for ATI, but there's a certain way you have to set your options in the CCC. It doesn't work like the Nvidia CP where you can simply force it from the control panel in every application. ATI and Nvidia are two entirely separate companies with separate applications/implementations for graphics settings.

If you want to switch camps, that's fine, as Nvidia has some nice drivers and products. I'm just giving you the heads up that it's probably some settings that you have wrong. I've very rarely had an issue with ATI not running AA in a game or not being able to get vsync to work (no vsync is a side effect from forcing AA in the CCC when it's not supposed to be, by the way.)

In all fairness, it's not entirely the user's fault. ATI should have some sort of readme or instruction file in the driver set that explains how their AA works.
Actually I purchased the card the day you made that thread and was probably was one of the first to read it. I first want to thank you for your informative thread as I thought that was a great contribution seeing as many members haere have jump to ATI for the 5XXX series. Non the less the issues I and many others have had were not resolved regardless of what settings were used in CCC. Fact is when I had the Nvidia Card issues were small and manageable. With ATI this is the first Time I felt gypped considering how much I payed for this card. Now I have to wait till 10.4 sometime in April in hope that these issues are fixed.
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