I have seen the future....

[lee63]

I have a gut feeling this is going to be a frustrating launch and a lot of people are gonna get pissed off....I hope I'm wrong.

[Razor1]

Originally Posted by shadow001

I'm talking about the physics calculations alone,not entire programs here,and i'll look to see if there's any benchmark results comparing the Ageia card versus an Nvidia GPU on physics workloads exclusively.

Its not a sole problem of the application, its parallism in any instance, hyperthreading was made to curtail that issue but its not an ideal solution by any means, we have had hyperthreading since the P4 days, and any good programmer knows its better to run programs on two CPU's then use hyperthreading, its like 2 SIMD's in a GPU, actually I kinda made a mistake with GPU, it can do hundreds of threads but each SIMD work on individual tasks, so its not in the hundreds of difference its more like x5or 6 times the difference possibly, unless since unification things have change where within the same SIMD different work can be done. Thats the reason why GPU's are better for parallel tasks, they were made to handle it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_computing

Optimally, the speed-up from parallelization would be linear—doubling the number of processing elements should halve the runtime, and doubling it a second time should again halve the runtime. However, very few parallel algorithms achieve optimal speed-up. Most of them have a near-linear speed-up for small numbers of processing elements, which flattens out into a constant value for large numbers of processing elements.

As for DX11 games,there's Dirt 2,aliens versus predator,battleforge,battlefield bad company 2 and a couple of others,but like i stated before,the main reason i bought them is for the triple display support in games,for where there are already close to 30 games in the supported list,it doesn't require developer support,and the cards have only been out 6 months on the market,compared to 2 years for GPU physX.

You were saying?...

So thats good right you had a reason to buy it, and 4 games is still less then the amount of games with PhysX. Just like nV's 3d vision, people bought thier cards for a reason.

[Revs]

Originally Posted by lee63

I have a gut feeling this is going to be a frustrating launch and a lot of people are gonna get pissed off....I hope I'm wrong.

Shiiiit, I knew that by xmas

[Toss3]

So thats good right you had a reason to buy it, and 4 games is still less then the amount of games with PhysX. Just like nV's 3d vision, people bought thier cards for a reason.

Please don't listen to him - the whole dx11 debacle isn't comparable to physx. 3DVision is also a whole separate thing as is eyefinity.

[Revs]

I don't know why he can't just be happy with his cards and let be.

[Toss3]

Originally Posted by lee63

I have a gut feeling this is going to be a frustrating launch and a lot of people are gonna get pissed off....I hope I'm wrong.

Isn't that always the case when a new generation of cards are launched? I thinks it's part of the fun! It's like the ManU vs barcelona of the tech world.

[Revs]

Very true

[shadow001]

Originally Posted by Razor1

So thats good right you had a reason to buy it, and 4 games is still less then the amount of games with PhysX. Just like nV's 3d vision, people bought thier cards for a reason.

DX11 has only been out a few months,and up until now,only 1 GPU maker had DX11 cards on the market,and DX11 is a unified standard,controled by none other than microsoft,so they have the final say if you want to play games on the windows platform,not anyone else.


Unified standards always get more support and a faster rate of adoption than proprietary standards ever will basically,no matter how much Nvidia complains about it,since it doesn't make their hardware any more special than that of competitors in the end,and they don't like that,if nothing else from a marketing standpoint.


It's also why ATI decided to support Eyefinity,since it has nothing to do with direct X,and doesn't even require any special attention from developers at all,both in current games already released,or any future game releases either,so it bypasses all the issues that Nvidia is facing by trying to push PhysX as much as it can,and enhances overall gameplay,like the examples i mentioned with battlefield bad company 2 and making me a better player...

[shadow001]

Originally Posted by Revs

I don't know why he can't just be happy with his cards and let be.

I am extremely happy with my cards btw,and the leaked numbers shown so far aren't that impressive,which makes me wonder why some waited 6 months for this?....Just my 0.02 cents.

[Rollo]

Originally Posted by shadow001

I am extremely happy with my cards btw,and the leaked numbers shown so far aren't that impressive,which makes me wonder why some waited 6 months for this?....Just my 0.02 cents.

They don't work for ATi like you, so they think being able to see all the options available is a good thing rather than a possible layoff.......

[Toss3]

Originally Posted by shadow001

I am extremely happy with my cards btw,and the leaked numbers shown so far aren't that impressive,which makes me wonder why some waited 6 months for this?....Just my 0.02 cents.

Because some people don't own crystal balls? Besides there weren't really that many games that needed the performance of the 58/970-series when they were launched so many chose to stay with their previous-gen cards and see what the other camp had to offer before making a decision.

[Revs]