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Old 03-27-10, 02:16 AM   #97
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Did you actually read the PCPer review? They had charts of framerate over time.

Of course min FPS is important when it comes to real world gameplay. Large discrepancies between max and min framerates are noticeable to the eye as a disturbance.

Anywhoo, here you go:

With the Metro 2033 benchmark, GTX 470 is ~15% faster than HD 5870 in terms of minimum framerate (although AMD says that the drivers are poorly tuned for this benchmark):
Jimmy, benches where one card runs out of memory are dishonest, even you should see that. 90% of the time, those situations are unplayable reguardless.
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Old 03-27-10, 02:34 AM   #98
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Jimmy, benches where one card runs out of memory are dishonest, even you should see that. 90% of the time, those situations are unplayable reguardless.
All cards reach their limits at one point or another, and framebuffer size is not the only thing that creates a bottleneck. Your statement is not correct anyway with respect to Metro 2033, because if you read the review, the GTX 470 has a clear lead even at lower resolutions (ie. 1680x1050).
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Old 03-27-10, 02:47 AM   #99
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So having a bigger framebuffer is now dishonest, but we should all wait for 2GB HD 5870, riiiight

GTX 470 looks like a great card. I think they will eventually match HD 5870 performance with driver updates, so the only question remaining is, if it will be in time before a refresh or a price drop.

GTX 480 results are all over the place. There's just too big of a delta between the slowest and fastest results. Any review tries to explain that? I don't really care about the power consumption or the heat. 93C in load is not that far from my previous card. The only bad thing remaining is the noise and if all it takes is placing a 120mm fan on top of the card, then I see no problem.

If I had the money right now, I would buy one GTX 470 with the possibility going SLI some time in the future. But I just bought Xbox 360 and have plenty of games to go through, so I'll wait for a month or two and see, if drivers really do something.
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IMO After reading all the reviews, if you're looking to save cash manually overclocking two 5850s is still a great option. Every time those cards approach 5870 clocks performance is remarkably similar.

http://firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_...iew/page19.asp

I personally know a few fellows running 5850s @ 950-1k on the core with MSI's Afterburner.
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How many people in here upgrading from 285's to 480's?
 
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How many people in here upgrading from 285's to 480's?
Well I only have a 280, but will be upgrading for sure. As soon as the cards land here.
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Well, I am disappointed, but I suppose not surprised. From a marketing perspective, I was pretty sure that Nvidia's newest entry would probably be luke warm, based on the idiotic hush hush PR campaign that they had been pushing... Being a die hard Nvidia guy for the past 9 or 10 years, I was hoping that Nvidia would pull a rabbit out of their hat. However, the heat and noise is a deal breaker since the performance gains are not worth it. I held out for the PAX unveiling... but It's going to be an XFX 5870 for me. I'm sure I'll be criticized for saying this.... and I hate to... but this is more of a marketing win for AMD/ATI and a blow for Nvidia.
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Most of what I'm thinking off has already been said.Too much power,too much heat,extreme noise,10-15% faster on average and for 100+ euros more after 6 months.
My next upgrade will probably be at the end of 2010 when Northern Islands and Fermi 2 show up.
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Looking at the benchmarks today I realized that nvidia has got a sleeping giant in its hands. It benefits immensely from overclocking, so once they do a refresh and utilize the full 512 cores plus a die-shrink I think it's going to be legendary. Temps are the only thing keeping fermi from properly flexing its muscles. I think we're going to see a whole different beast once these get watercooled.
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the refresh of this card should be the way its meant to be played ! but this card how it is right now is another Geforce FX
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the refresh of this card should be the way its meant to be played ! but this card how it is right now is another Geforce FX
Even when restrained by the TDP and heat it still beats the 5870 quite handily. Definitely not a geforce FX in any way or form(except maybe noise).
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Even when restrained by the TDP and heat it still beats the 5870 quite handily. Definitely not a geforce FX in any way or form(except maybe noise).
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