Your opinion on the GTX 470 & 480 - Page 10

jimmyjames123 · 03-27-10, 05:24 AM

According to the Anandtech review on GTX 470/480, there is a problem right now in NVIDIA's drivers which causes the new Transparency Supersamping (TrSS) mode on Fermi to run extremely slow with a huge performance hit due to overly aggressive super-sampling. Apparently this will be fixed in a driver release next month so that the performance hit will be much smaller.

[H]OCP used two games (ie. Battlefield: Bad Company 2, and Dirt 2, which represent 50% of their test suite of 4 games in total!) where they showed framerates using the new Transparency Supersampling mode enabled on the GTX 4xx cards.

So to the make a long story short, it seems that TrSS could be the reason why we see unusually low framerates for GTX 4xx cards in two out of four games tested by [H]OCP.

Muppet · 03-27-10, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Toss3

Even when restrained by the TDP and heat it still beats the 5870 quite handily. Definitely not a geforce FX in any way or form(except maybe noise).

You are right there. The 480 is anything but slow. The FX was slow, hot and noisey.

Toss3 · 03-27-10, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmyjames123

According to the Anandtech review on GTX 470/480, there is a problem right now in NVIDIA's drivers which causes the new Transparency Supersamping (TrSS) mode on Fermi to run extremely slow with a huge performance hit due to overly aggresive super-sampling. Apparently this will be fixed in a driver release next month so that the performance hit will be much smaller.

[H]OCP used two games (ie. Battlefield: Bad Company 2, and Dirt 2, which represent 50% of their test suite of 4 games in total!) where they showed framerates using Transparency Supersampling enabled on the GTX 4xx cards.

So to the make a long story short, it seems that TrSS could be the reason why we see unusually low framerates for GTX 4xx cards in two out of four games tested by [H]OCP.

Harocp's review seemed pretty half-hearted if you ask me. Their reviews are usually among the best, but this time I feel they dropped the ball. The GTX 470 vs 5850 benchmarks are still usable though.

Guru3d is really the best of the bunch right now.

jimmyjames123 · 03-27-10, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Toss3

Harocp's review seemed pretty half-hearted if you ask me. Their reviews are usually among the best, but this time I feel they dropped the ball. The GTX 470 vs 5850 benchmarks are still usable though.

Guru3d is really the best of the bunch right now.

Yup. It looked like they were just going through the motions really.

One of the four games that [H]OCP tested used the new Transparency Supersampling mode on GTX 470 too. I believe it was Battlefield: Bad Company 2.

Sowk · 03-27-10, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmyjames123

GF100 is an impressive architectural feat, but I am particularly impressed with GTX 470. The minimum framerate on GTX 470 is in many cases 15-25% higher than HD 5870 at high resolutions, and idle power consumption is within 6% of HD 5870 too. See details from PCPer review here:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...postcount=1551

You are the only one super happy on this forum... lol. Hell even hell_of_doom is sticking with ATI... Jump on the band wagon this generation...

If I didn't get my ATI 5970's I would have gotten SLI GTX480's, but glad I didn't as they get ultra hot... And I almost think anyone with 2 PCIe slots next to each other with no air gap between are going to be in trouble.

Sowk · 03-27-10, 05:43 AM

Revs · 03-27-10, 07:04 AM

I've defected

Ordered 2 5850's last night at £220 each. Never had an ATi card before but these 2 cards cost less and one GTX480, easily out perform it and are available now. As Toss pointed out to me, they OC superbly, too. It was a no-brainer really. These newer ATi drivers have made x-fire a lot more attractive.

Toss3 · 03-27-10, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Revs

I've defected

Ordered 2 5850's last night at £220 each. Never had an ATi card before but these 2 cards cost less and one GTX480, easily out perform it and are available now. As Toss pointed out to me, they OC superbly, too. It was a no-brainer really. These newer ATi drivers have made x-fire a lot more attractive.

Just wait 'til you watercool them and clock them to 1Ghz+; then they'll even come close to two GTX 480s in SLI!

zaG · 03-27-10, 07:09 AM

The performance is nice but the FX5800 is back and thats a big problem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOVjZqC1AE4

ryoohki · 03-27-10, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Revs

I've defected

Ordered 2 5850's last night at £220 each. Never had an ATi card before but these 2 cards cost less and one GTX480, easily out perform it and are available now. As Toss pointed out to me, they OC superbly, too. It was a no-brainer really. These newer ATi drivers have made x-fire a lot more attractive.

Yeah i basically waited too. I have a 5850 but was curious about the 480. I ordered a second 5850. My 5850 OC to 940/1140 easily and the temps are about 66C-70C at that speed (from 760/1050). I'am pretty sure i could go higher if i could use Volt Tweak, but i bought the Powercolor PCS+ (awesome cooler, like the Vapor-X). Fan never get more than 44%

**K007** · 03-27-10, 07:14 AM

probably even louder than this

Toss3 · 03-27-10, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by K007

probably even louder than this

Reminds me of this old classic:

03-27-10, 05:24 AM	#109
jimmyjames123 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 665	Re: Your opinion on the GTX 470 & 480 According to the Anandtech review on GTX 470/480, there is a problem right now in NVIDIA's drivers which causes the new Transparency Supersamping (TrSS) mode on Fermi to run extremely slow with a huge performance hit due to overly aggressive super-sampling. Apparently this will be fixed in a driver release next month so that the performance hit will be much smaller. [H]OCP used two games (ie. Battlefield: Bad Company 2, and Dirt 2, which represent 50% of their test suite of 4 games in total!) where they showed framerates using the new Transparency Supersampling mode enabled on the GTX 4xx cards. So to the make a long story short, it seems that TrSS could be the reason why we see unusually low framerates for GTX 4xx cards in two out of four games tested by [H]OCP.

03-27-10, 05:43 AM	#114
Sowk STEAM ID: OSE Killer Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 394	Re: Your opinion on the GTX 470 & 480 nm

03-27-10, 07:04 AM	#115
Revs Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: UK Posts: 6,362	Re: Your opinion on the GTX 470 & 480 I've defected Ordered 2 5850's last night at £220 each. Never had an ATi card before but these 2 cards cost less and one GTX480, easily out perform it and are available now. As Toss pointed out to me, they OC superbly, too. It was a no-brainer really. These newer ATi drivers have made x-fire a lot more attractive.

03-27-10, 07:09 AM	#117
zaG Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 100	Re: Your opinion on the GTX 470 & 480 The performance is nice but the FX5800 is back and thats a big problem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOVjZqC1AE4 __________________ My Sys: Intel C2Q9550 @ 3400 // Gigabyte P965 DS3 Rev. 3.3 // Asus 280 GTX // G.Skill 6Gb @ 400 // X-Fi Extreme Music // 160GB Postville // Enermax 525W // Win 7 64bit

03-27-10, 07:14 AM	#119
K007 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Australia, Sydney Posts: 9,405	Re: Your opinion on the GTX 470 & 480 probably even louder than this