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Old 04-04-10, 12:27 AM   #121
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Nothing I said was directed at him..or anyone else for that matter (until he quoted me). I was referring to this thread in general.

It just seems like all the threads lately end up in a pissing match...that's all.

Toss doesn't seem upset in anyway yet he is baited in this reply...the guy is a troll and I think everyone's a little tired of it.

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...75&postcount=6
This happens a lot when new products, specifically high end video cards, hit the market. This time is even worse considering that each product, the HD 5870 and GTX 480, both have extreme trade-offs that would leave it anyone's guess which one is the better product. Naturally, the trolls come out of their caves to feed.


Nice work lee. That guy was a complete tool.




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Old 04-04-10, 01:02 AM   #122
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I guess he found out for certain the hard way that lee is a mod

Anyway while SLI scales really well on the GTX 480 I think a lot of people may take power supplies into consideration. 5870s in crossfire should be able to get away with a 600W PSU while SLI GTX 480 I wouldn't run on anything less than an 850W PSU. So this isn't so much of an issue for people with 900-1000W PSUs but there are a lot of people out there with 650-800W PSUs.

I can't wait for regular people to start getting their hands on these cards and see what they have to say. Reviewers only take a look at the cards for a couple days and write their reviews while real users actually have to live with them
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Old 04-04-10, 02:29 AM   #123
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I am wondering if Nvidia are planning to make 470s and 480s for the long term, in GPU time span I mean? Would not like to buy an orphan card. Also maybe best solution is having a dual card, one ATI and one Nvidia and skip the CF and SLI setup all together.
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Old 04-04-10, 04:08 AM   #124
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I am wondering if Nvidia are planning to make 470s and 480s for the long term, in GPU time span I mean? Would not like to buy an orphan card. Also maybe best solution is having a dual card, one ATI and one Nvidia and skip the CF and SLI setup all together.
I initially thought they would only be short run cards with a die shrink coming next. But from all the articles over at Extreme Systems about the 32mm being cancelled by both TSMC and Global Foundries. It may last longer than we think.

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Old 04-04-10, 07:37 AM   #125
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I guess he found out for certain the hard way that lee is a mod

Anyway while SLI scales really well on the GTX 480 I think a lot of people may take power supplies into consideration. 5870s in crossfire should be able to get away with a 600W PSU while SLI GTX 480 I wouldn't run on anything less than an 850W PSU. So this isn't so much of an issue for people with 900-1000W PSUs but there are a lot of people out there with 650-800W PSUs.

I can't wait for regular people to start getting their hands on these cards and see what they have to say. Reviewers only take a look at the cards for a couple days and write their reviews while real users actually have to live with them
Well put,

I just built a new Rig in January, went with just a single 5850 because I really was interested in Fermi. I'm running a corsair 750W PSU which would be borderline for an SLi setup especially since I'm overclocking. Whereas I can easily run 5850's or 5870's in Xfire.

PSU considerations are definitely a factor in deciding on a 480 setup.

I'm wondering what the 485 512sp parts are gonna need for power.
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Would it make sense to upgrade from an 8800GT right now? My budget is about $350. Or should I just wait to see what nvidia releases with fermi?
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I initially thought they would only be short run cards with a die shrink coming next. But from all the articles over at Extreme Systems about the 32mm being cancelled by both TSMC and Global Foundries. It may last longer than we think.

Globalfoundries Scraps 32nm Bulk Fabrication Process


The very least we can expect is a GTX485 card with the full 512 shaders,using higher core clocks and even faster memory than the current one,which should easily crank out another 20~30% extra speed out of it at least.


But that might only happen later this year,with a new stepping that adresses the yeilds,power and heat issues for the current version,while the 40nm process matures further overall.
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Would it make sense to upgrade from an 8800GT right now? My budget is about $350. Or should I just wait to see what nvidia releases with fermi?
I think a GTX 470 would be a nice upgrade for you @ $349
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I think a GTX 470 would be a nice upgrade for you @ $349
That's what I was thinking. Should I be looking at AMD as well? Haven't owned one of their parts since my Athlon X2 days.
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You might be able to find a 5870 for that price....you just need to look around.
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That's what I was thinking. Should I be looking at AMD as well? Haven't owned one of their parts since my Athlon X2 days.
I would say, keep an open mind and check out both Nvidia's and ATI's solutions and see what suits you best.
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The very least we can expect is a GTX485 card with the full 512 shaders,using higher core clocks and even faster memory than the current one,which should easily crank out another 20~30% extra speed out of it at least.


But that might only happen later this year,with a new stepping that adresses the yeilds,power and heat issues for the current version,while the 40nm process matures further overall.
20%~30%?

I'm sure they'd be happy with 15%......
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