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Old 04-14-10, 08:04 AM   #13
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I would believe the users. According to them, is't better than a GTX 295.
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Old 04-14-10, 08:18 AM   #14
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I would believe the users. According to them, is't better than a GTX 295.
I trust Kyle Bennett and the video he (or his staff) made which I heard with my own cans. First hand opinion; it's freakin' loud. And the 470 uses more watts than a crossfire 5870. Talk about an AMD slam dunk.
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Old 04-14-10, 08:31 AM   #15
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You guys really blow the temperature "problems" way out of proportion.

If you've owned a 275+ you've already had exposure to the same thermal issues.... I peak at 105 C while folding.... These cards are designed to run this way
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Old 04-14-10, 11:27 AM   #16
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I don't leave my case open either, but I'm personally going on relative comparisons. By that I mean, I personally own a GTX 285, and I briefly owned a GTX 295. The 295 is about as loud as I'd want to have to listen to with a case closed.

Assuming the GTX 480 is louder than a 295 - a solid assumption based on the reviews I've read - then its just too loud IMO.

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I've seen the 94-95C repeated and reported by several long-standing review sites (think the top names here) who probably have near perfected their measuring techniques. Who am I going to trust?

It's clear you have your mind set on believing what you want to believe, and that's fine, but I can tell you these FACTS:

In the exact same case, with the exact same system, my 480 runs 10-15c cooler and is quieter than my 295 that I replaced last week. That's a fact, that's not reviewer testing the card out of a case, of putting some stupid decibel meter directly on the card, or some lame microphone on the fan, etc. that's apples to apples, hands down, solid victory for the 480.

All of these reviews that you saw were pre-release with pre-release bios, and older drivers. My 480 has yet to hit 80c ON ANY GAME and it's never gone above 90c in ANYTHING, including Furmark, which flat out torched my 295.


The real truth is that since gamers have gotten a hold of these cards, the results are FAR different from just about every review that came before they were released. Hell, even Hardware Canuck, which is an excellent site, got fed up of listening to all the FUD and released a video showing what things are really like.

Who am I kidding, you guys who keep complaining about this stuff don't want the truth, you just wanna parrot what you read on some site like you know what you are talking about.
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Old 04-14-10, 12:05 PM   #17
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And the 470 uses more watts than a crossfire 5870. Talk about an AMD slam dunk.
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Old 04-14-10, 02:34 PM   #19
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It's clear you have your mind set on believing what you want to believe, and that's fine, but I can tell you these FACTS:
You have 297 posts, so I'm going to take it you've heard of "MikeC"; the guy posting updates on his GTX 480 right here in this forum. He's a forum mod/VIP here too if I'm not mistaken. Anyway, he's measuring 96C after 2 minutes of load.

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You have 297 posts, so I'm going to take it you've heard of "MikeC"; the guy posting updates on his GTX 480 right here in this forum. He's a forum mod/VIP here too if I'm not mistaken. Anyway, he's measuring 96C after 2 minutes of load.

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He is measuring 96c after two minutes of Furmark with the auto fan profile. What's your point? When is the last time anyone running a high end Nvidia card used an auto fan profile?

Load up a 285 and run the same test and tell me what you get...

I've mentioned in previous posts, as have other people, that the default fan profile sucks and doesn't ramp up the fan until the card hits nearly 90c, and by that time there is no keeping it cool. A simple adjustment of the fan profile so that it ramps up equally with temps completely eliminates this.

Furmark caps out for me at 90c at 85% fan speed, which BTW is cooler than a 295 in the same test, and even 96c is about average for a 200 series card.

You guys pick what you want to and pretend that it's that way across the board. If you read my previous posts in these threads you'd see my results, haven't hit 80c in a GAME yet, and haven't gone above 77% fan speed. Explain to me how that's worse than Nvidia's last generation?
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You have 297 posts, so I'm going to take it you've heard of "MikeC"; the guy posting updates on his GTX 480 right here in this forum. He's a forum mod/VIP here too if I'm not mistaken. Anyway, he's measuring 96C after 2 minutes of load.

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Yeah, but MikeC had a pre-release card if memory serves me right. The retail cards have had an updated Bios since then. Honestly, these cards don't run any hotter than my previous GTX280. Fan speed is also not any louder.

I ran Metro 2033 for over an hour on auto fan settings. Temps didn't go any higher than high 70's. I set up EVGA Precision and it logs the hottest temps that the card gets. Also the highest Fan speed was 66% and not audible at all. At least not over the CPU fans I have using a fan controller.
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