Dual Fermi GTX 490

trivium nate · 05-24-10, 10:15 PM

Sorry if posted before but!

source 1
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/18906/1/

source 2
http://www.kitguru.net/components/gr...-down-to-5970/

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Two GF104 cores, 375W TDP

It appears that Nvidia's upcoming dual-GPU card will end up with the GTX 490 brand.

As we previously reported, Nvidia canceled the original dual-Fermi D12U-50 because it was a bit too complex and generated as much heat as a medium yield nuclear warhead. Hence, Nvidia apparently chose to use GF104 cores for its new dual-GPU card. Despite this, the rumoured GTX 490 will end up with a 375W TDP.

According to KitGuru.net, the new card will be branded GTX 490, but there's still no info on exact specs or launch dates. We can only speculate that Nvidia will launch the dual headed beast by the end of the summer, just in time for the nag-fueled-back-to-school shopping spree.

However, it's still far from clear how the new card will measure up to AMD's HD 5970, as the high TDP could limit its clocks and recently introduced HD 5970 cards with 4GB of memory could give AMD a fighting chance.

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Behind closed doors at Computex, nVidia is likely to be showing its most important partners a very serious piece of new kit. The GTX490. Remember when the 7950 GX2 was considered power-hungry for pulling 110w in 3D testing? Looking back at that era, it seems that ATI and nVidia just weren’t trying hard enough.

As we continue to look under the rocks in Taiwan, more interesting information about nVidia’s new high-end card has come to light. To be honest, water-damage and exposure to UV rays means the ink has run in places and we’re looking at this document over a weak video link, but we’re pretty sure that the key info is intact. Question remains: Is it accurate?

Firstly, it shows that the GTX490 is a dual-GPU card.

It’s likely to use the Fermi GTX470 processors, but we’re unable to confirm the exact clocks etc.

GTX490’s power draw looks to be around 375w.

Given that the GTX470 is a 215w part when shipped on its own PCB, there would appear to be some serious down-clocking in action.

We know from the big notebook manufacturers that nVidia sells GTX chips that can run on as little as 100 watts (if you have plenty of spare money and can wait for them to be speed binned).

The key question won’t be “Can the GTX490 beat the original 2GB Radeon HD 5970?”.

The actual question will be “Can GTX490 beat the new 4GB Radeon HD 5970?”.

KitGuru says: Like watching a 20 year old Mike Tyson looking to re-unify the heavyweight belts, we just can’t wait for these boyz to get into the ring and knock seven shades of crap out of each other!

Wow so what do you guys think?
I think I'm going to stick to my Sli 260's

CaptNKILL · 05-24-10, 10:35 PM

It wouldn't make sense for them to put a lot of effort into producing a card that was slower than the 5970, so it will most likely trade blows with it, just so they can claim to be the fastest dual-GPU card available at least part of the time.

Doesn't matter to me either way though. I don't do SLI, even if its on one card... and I cannot imagine the amount of heat and noise this card would generate. I can barely stand my overclocked 470. The fan gets so loud that its actually kind of funny.

Redeemed · 05-24-10, 10:43 PM

Far too little, too late IMO.

I've already opted to go with a 5770 as is. I don't see the GTX4xx going down in history very favorably tbh...

Maybe the GTX5 series... I think that will be the impressive one, with the following gen even better. For now though... ATi is where it's at IMO.

JasonPC · 05-24-10, 10:58 PM

Interesting. I guess even though the card is supposed to use two 150W GF104 cores, it will require two 8-pin PCIe power connectors, more than likely because the 300W limitation is just too close and they didn't want to further hinder performance of the GF104 cores or kill the overclocking potential.

Come on DarthBeavis take your green glasses off and you have to admit the lack of efficiency and inability to totally blow the ATI cards out of the water has been a little disappointing. They have had fairly warm reviews but nothing like when the GeForce 8 series came out. I admit the major success for the GeForce 400 cards seems to be great SLI scaling. I hope they continue that trend while keeping the drivers working well. My SLI experience with 8800s was pretty bad, but it sounds like major improvements have been made.

Redeemed · 05-24-10, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthBeavis

480s have reviewed well.

Yeah, if money and power consumption are of no concern then the 4xx is a great lineup.

You'll also noticed three, capitolised letters at the end of my previous post.

**snowmanwithahat** · 05-24-10, 11:45 PM

I have yet to see benchmarks obviously.... but at 375W TDP I doubt this is going to go over well.

Isn't the pci-express specification for only 300W per pci-express slot as an absolute maximum...? At 375 this should be on 2x8pin pci-e power cables.... sounds kind of stupid...

trivium nate · 05-24-10, 11:48 PM

whats kind fo stupid is the fact that they are already releasing new hardware ****ing idiots their new piece of crap just cope out and they are hot enough to melt the Antarctica

Bah! · 05-25-10, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Redeemed

Far too little, too late IMO.

I've already opted to go with a 5770 as is. I don't see the GTX4xx going down in history very favorably tbh...

Maybe the GTX5 series... I think that will be the impressive one, with the following gen even better. For now though... ATi is where it's at IMO.

If you bought a 5770 you weren't exactly the market for the 400 series anyway.

top3koms · 05-25-10, 03:31 AM

I don't get where people who do not own the 400 series get the right to say things like "their new piece of crap just cope *came* out and they are hot enough to melt the Antarctica."I have 2 480's now and had 2 285's before this ,the 480's idol at a higher temp.1st 480 card is at 58C and 2nd is at 56C atm whereas the 285's idoled in the high 40's to low 50's but the highest temp I have seen from my 480's thus far is 86C while I regularly saw temps in the low 90's from the 285 after a good long gaming session.

**Eltigre88** · 05-25-10, 05:18 AM

Not sure why there are sooooo many ATI fans on an Nvidia website?????? Can't imagine having over 22,000 post on a brand I don't use........

**nekrosoft13** · 05-25-10, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Redeemed

Far too little, too late IMO.

I've already opted to go with a 5770 as is. I don't see the GTX4xx going down in history very favorably tbh...

Maybe the GTX5 series... I think that will be the impressive one, with the following gen even better. For now though... ATi is where it's at IMO.

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Originally Posted by Bah!

If you bought a 5770 you weren't exactly the market for the 400 series anyway.

excactly. those corvettes are crap, I will be happy with a dodge neon.

Redeemed · 05-25-10, 08:19 AM

Don't own the 5770 yet... still shopping around. Still rocking my trusty dual 8800GTXs.

Simply going off of performance per watt and dollar spent. It'll cost me more in the long run to power and cool *any* GTX400 series card, than it would an HD5xxx series card.

Looking for the over-all most effecient card, and nothing from nvidia seems to be remotely efficient. Just brute power.

Kinda' like have a V10 instead of a V6 diesel.

I'll take the diesel.

05-24-10, 10:35 PM	#2
CaptNKILL CUBE Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: PA, USA Posts: 18,844	Re: Dual Fermi GTX 490 It wouldn't make sense for them to put a lot of effort into producing a card that was slower than the 5970, so it will most likely trade blows with it, just so they can claim to be the fastest dual-GPU card available at least part of the time. Doesn't matter to me either way though. I don't do SLI, even if its on one card... and I cannot imagine the amount of heat and noise this card would generate. I can barely stand my overclocked 470. The fan gets so loud that its actually kind of funny. __________________ ---- Primary Rig ---- CoolerMaster 690 II Advance - Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P - Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 @ 4.0Ghz + Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme 6GB DDR2 @ 942Mhz 5-5-5-20 1.9v (2x1Gb Wintec AMPX PC2-8500 & 2x2Gb G.Skill PC2-6400) - EVGA Geforce GTX 470 @ 750/1500/1850 (1.050v) Sparkle Geforce GTS 250 1Gb Low-Profile (Physx) - Crucial RealSSD C300 64Gb SSD - Seagate 7200.12 500Gb SATA - Seagate 7200.10 320Gb SATA ASUS VW266H 25.5" LCD - OCZ GameXStream 700W PSU - ASUS Xonar DX - Logitech Z-5500 5.1 Surround - Windows 7 Professional x64 ---- HTPC ---- Asus M3A78-EM 780G - AMD Athlon X2 5050e 45W @ 2.6Ghz - 2x2GB Kingston PC2-6400 DDR2 - Sparkle 350W PSU Seagate 7200.10 320Gb SATA - Seagate 7200.10 250Gb SATA - Athenatech A100BB.350 MicroATX Desktop - Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic

05-24-10, 10:43 PM	#3
Redeemed Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 17,986	Re: Dual Fermi GTX 490 Far too little, too late IMO. I've already opted to go with a 5770 as is. I don't see the GTX4xx going down in history very favorably tbh... Maybe the GTX5 series... I think that will be the impressive one, with the following gen even better. For now though... ATi is where it's at IMO.

05-24-10, 10:58 PM	#4
JasonPC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,103	Re: Dual Fermi GTX 490 Interesting. I guess even though the card is supposed to use two 150W GF104 cores, it will require two 8-pin PCIe power connectors, more than likely because the 300W limitation is just too close and they didn't want to further hinder performance of the GF104 cores or kill the overclocking potential. Come on DarthBeavis take your green glasses off and you have to admit the lack of efficiency and inability to totally blow the ATI cards out of the water has been a little disappointing. They have had fairly warm reviews but nothing like when the GeForce 8 series came out. I admit the major success for the GeForce 400 cards seems to be great SLI scaling. I hope they continue that trend while keeping the drivers working well. My SLI experience with 8800s was pretty bad, but it sounds like major improvements have been made.

05-24-10, 11:45 PM	#6
snowmanwithahat Snowy Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 973	Re: Dual Fermi GTX 490 I have yet to see benchmarks obviously.... but at 375W TDP I doubt this is going to go over well. Isn't the pci-express specification for only 300W per pci-express slot as an absolute maximum...? At 375 this should be on 2x8pin pci-e power cables.... sounds kind of stupid... __________________ ---Gaming Rig--- Q6600 3.4ghz (378x9) - 1.5v Gigabyte EP45-UD3P 8gb (4x2gb) OCZ Gold DDR2-800 (5-4-4-12) MSI+ASUS GTX 470 SLI Dell u3011 IPS Display HP 22" Auxiliary Monitor 256gb Western Digital Silicon Edge Blue SSD 5x2tb RAID-5 Array 750W PC P&C PSU Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit & Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit ---Gaming Laptop--- ASUS G53JW Core i7 740QM 16gb DDR3 Nvidia GTX 460m 1tb WD HDD 120gb Corsair SSD Join the NvNews Folding @ Home Team

05-24-10, 11:48 PM	#7
trivium nate Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,023	Re: Dual Fermi GTX 490 whats kind fo stupid is the fact that they are already releasing new hardware ****ing idiots their new piece of crap just cope out and they are hot enough to melt the Antarctica __________________ CM-HAF-932//AMD Phenom-II-X4-965-BE-Deneb-3.4 GHz-Quad Core//CorsairH50 ASRock 770 EXTREME3 Mobo//EVGA GTX-480(1536MB GDDR5)-Arctic Cooling Accelero Xtreme+cooler 180GB SSD//3TB//G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB//DVD-RW//blu-Ray//1000 Watt Corsair PSU 42"Vizio TV-1920x1080-1080P-120Hertz//Win 7 Ultimate(64)//XBox360-pc controller Saitek Eclipse 2 keyboard//Razer DeathAdder Mouse//250gb-Xbox 360//160gb-PS3

05-25-10, 03:31 AM	#9
top3koms Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mid-Atlantic Region Posts: 283	Re: Dual Fermi GTX 490 I don't get where people who do not own the 400 series get the right to say things like "their new piece of crap just cope came out and they are hot enough to melt the Antarctica."I have 2 480's now and had 2 285's before this ,the 480's idol at a higher temp.1st 480 card is at 58C and 2nd is at 56C atm whereas the 285's idoled in the high 40's to low 50's but the highest temp I have seen from my 480's thus far is 86C while I regularly saw temps in the low 90's from the 285 after a good long gaming session. __________________ Asus Rampage III Extreme/Intel Core i7 960/Corsair H70 Corsair Dominator Gt DDR3 1600 (7,7,7,20) EVGA GTX 580 SLI/ Soundblaster X-Fi Fatal1ty Intel X25-M 80Gb SSD - WD Black 500Gb /LG DVD-RW Silverstone DA1000 / Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit Coolermaster Stacker 830 / Alienware AW2310 NVIDIA 3D Vision

05-25-10, 05:18 AM	#10
Eltigre88 ASUS Lover!!! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Essex Jct. Vermont Posts: 1,046	Re: Dual Fermi GTX 490 Not sure why there are sooooo many ATI fans on an Nvidia website?????? Can't imagine having over 22,000 post on a brand I don't use........ __________________ ASUS Sabertooth P67 Intel SB 2600K 4 GhZ 16 GB Gskill RipJaws DDR3 2133 MSI 680GTX Twin Frozr 4GD5/OC WD 250X2 RAID 0 SATA ThermalTake ToughPower 850W PSU Windows 7 Premium 64bit

05-25-10, 08:19 AM	#12
Redeemed Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 17,986	Re: Dual Fermi GTX 490 Don't own the 5770 yet... still shopping around. Still rocking my trusty dual 8800GTXs. Simply going off of performance per watt and dollar spent. It'll cost me more in the long run to power and cool any GTX400 series card, than it would an HD5xxx series card. Looking for the over-all most effecient card, and nothing from nvidia seems to be remotely efficient. Just brute power. Kinda' like have a V10 instead of a V6 diesel. I'll take the diesel.