insmod: error inserting './usr/src/nv/nvidia.ko and can't find my NVIDIA card? - Page 3

adamk75 · 06-13-10, 01:11 PM

It is unlikely that nvidia will ever produce a driver that can exist in the kernel at the same time as nouveau (though I'd be pleasantly surprised to be proven wrong). While the nvidia driver installer can certainly blacklist nouveau, it can't unload nouveau from the kernel if KMS is in use (at least it can't unload nouveau and leave X and the console usable).

I would be interested in knowing if nvidia somehow plans on dealing with this conflict, though.

Adam

ant · 06-13-10, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamk75

It is unlikely that nvidia will ever produce a driver that can exist in the kernel at the same time as nouveau (though I'd be pleasantly surprised to be proven wrong). While the nvidia driver installer can certainly blacklist nouveau, it can't unload nouveau from the kernel if KMS is in use (at least it can't unload nouveau and leave X and the console usable).

I would be interested in knowing if nvidia somehow plans on dealing with this conflict, though.

Adam

That stinks. I wonder if they will mention it in their documentations. I am sure there are plenty of Debian users and they will run into this.

adamk75 · 06-13-10, 01:51 PM

It's not just debian. Nouveau is part of the vanilla kernel now, probably enabled as a module by default. Since Ubuntu already forces a reboot when activating proprietary drivers, it will probably just blacklist the nouveau driver as part of the driver manager utility users can use to enable the nvidia driver (assuming it doesn't already). I'm not sure what other distributions will/are doing.

Adam

ant · 06-13-10, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamk75

It's not just debian. Nouveau is part of the vanilla kernel now, probably enabled as a module by default. Since Ubuntu already forces a reboot when activating proprietary drivers, it will probably just blacklist the nouveau driver as part of the driver manager utility users can use to enable the nvidia driver (assuming it doesn't already). I'm not sure what other distributions will/are doing.

Ahh. Have there been discussions about this issue in other places beside here for those who want to use NVIDIA's fast, closed binary driver?

adamk75 · 06-13-10, 03:16 PM

Not that I'm aware of, but that doesn't mean it's not happening.

Adam

06-13-10, 01:11 PM	#25
adamk75 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 228	Re: insmod: error inserting './usr/src/nv/nvidia.ko and can't find my NVIDIA card? It is unlikely that nvidia will ever produce a driver that can exist in the kernel at the same time as nouveau (though I'd be pleasantly surprised to be proven wrong). While the nvidia driver installer can certainly blacklist nouveau, it can't unload nouveau from the kernel if KMS is in use (at least it can't unload nouveau and leave X and the console usable). I would be interested in knowing if nvidia somehow plans on dealing with this conflict, though. Adam

06-13-10, 01:51 PM	#27
adamk75 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 228	Re: insmod: error inserting './usr/src/nv/nvidia.ko and can't find my NVIDIA card? It's not just debian. Nouveau is part of the vanilla kernel now, probably enabled as a module by default. Since Ubuntu already forces a reboot when activating proprietary drivers, it will probably just blacklist the nouveau driver as part of the driver manager utility users can use to enable the nvidia driver (assuming it doesn't already). I'm not sure what other distributions will/are doing. Adam

06-13-10, 03:16 PM	#29
adamk75 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 228	Re: insmod: error inserting './usr/src/nv/nvidia.ko and can't find my NVIDIA card? Not that I'm aware of, but that doesn't mean it's not happening. Adam