Microsoft partners with Crytek for 360 exclusive - Page 2

NaitoSan · 06-14-10, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NarcissistZero

If it really is Xbox only, which again is an assumption at this point, then people have a right to be pissed they are losing a game from a treasured studio on their platform. Acting like it is a betrayal is a little over the top, but it makes sense to be annoyed or frustrated.

Why? They have Crysis 2 heading to PC and is going to be superior version. Also those are the ones (well, not all) who didn't support Crytek with first Crysis or even Warhead. It didn't sell as much as it should so they should at least understand Crytek's going multi-platform to keep business going.

Mr. Hunt · 06-14-10, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NaitoSan

Why? They have Crysis 2 heading to PC and is going to be superior version. Also those are the ones (well, not all) who didn't support Crytek with first Crysis or even Warhead. It didn't sell as much as it should so they should at least understand Crytek's going multi-platform to keep business going.

I agree with you on this. People complain about stuff being "consolized", but they really need to understand it from a business perspective. Businesses like money.

NarcissistZero · 06-14-10, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NaitoSan

Why? They have Crysis 2 heading to PC and is going to be superior version. Also those are the ones (well, not all) who didn't support Crytek with first Crysis or even Warhead. It didn't sell as much as it should so they should at least understand Crytek's going multi-platform to keep business going.

Okay, first off the original Crysis sold well, it just didn't make the PC gaming scene boom to millions of hardcore users, which is crazily enough what Crytek expected.

Second, I am not complaining about multiplatform development, only exclusives.

Third, multiplatform development does have negatives, like not taking advantage of PC abilities or being focused on a more mainstream audience.

Fourth, people are always going to be unhappy when you show them something and then say "you can't have it." For PC-only gamers, that is something console exclusives are doing. It's not always as simple as saying "well buy an Xbox" because unlike Xbox versus PS3, the platforms are so different it really is a culture-shift.

Lastly, again, we do not know this is exclusive for reals.

NarcissistZero · 06-14-10, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Hunt

I agree with you on this. People complain about stuff being "consolized", but they really need to understand it from a business perspective. Businesses like money.

Very few people do not understand the business reasons at work... I don't see how understanding that means you aren't pissed about losing a game or developer however.

Ancient76 · 06-14-10, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Intel17

Oh joy! Thanks, Microsoft and Crytek!

Not going to buy Crysis 2. Done.

+1

I didn't buy the first one because i knew that it was going to happen.

Intel17 · 06-14-10, 04:04 PM

It's just people like me and most of us here at nVnews spend all this money upgrading our computers, buying these games legitimately, and then the developers, who now all have technology that runs on all three platforms, choose explicitly to make exclusives for platforms that they have YET TO RELEASE A GAME ON. Meh.

Mr. Hunt · 06-14-10, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ancient76

+1

I didn't buy the first one because i knew that it was going to happen.

Amazing logic.

dikinher · 06-14-10, 04:15 PM

Since the game is codenamed "Kingdoms" I am pretty sure we saw a taste of it in the old Cryengine 3 demo presentation.

Skip to 2:25 of this video.

**nekrosoft13** · 06-14-10, 04:18 PM

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I know, but I like the idea of the consumer having the last say. If only people were rational and voted with their money instead of being herded around like sheep. Not that I'm any better, but I like to think that I am.

they still do, if they would grow a ****ing brain and stop buying RROD_boxes.

NaitoSan · 06-14-10, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NarcissistZero

Okay, first off the original Crysis sold well, it just didn't make the PC gaming scene boom to millions of hardcore users, which is crazily enough what Crytek expected.

Second, I am not complaining about multiplatform development, only exclusives.

Third, multiplatform development does have negatives, like not taking advantage of PC abilities or being focused on a more mainstream audience.

Fourth, people are always going to be unhappy when you show them something and then say "you can't have it." For PC-only gamers, that is something console exclusives are doing. It's not always as simple as saying "well buy an Xbox" because unlike Xbox versus PS3, the platforms are so different it really is a culture-shift.

Lastly, again, we do not know this is exclusive for reals.

Crysis sold very poor on launch and in overtime it sold over 1 million. Crytek was hoping to sell more due to huge hype about it with incredible graphics, and all that hardcore gamers been asking for. But the end result? Most of them complained it ran so slow and all that crap. Okay, so what do exactly do they want? Crytek made game for them and then they complained.

AND it was a PC exclusive. XBOX 360 or PS3 will never see it on their console ever. We were okay with that. Maybe some were disappointed but that's pretty much. We didn't see any complains on this board about it. We had our own exclusives so I think it's fair to have exclusives for different platforms like PC. PS3 does too. Why can't XBOX 360 have some (they really do need some actually). If the idea of exclusives are out, one console's going to die while other console with better port will continue to live. PC will still going and then there'll be less competition going on. Exclusives can be good and helps keep their consoles or PC alive. Also some developers like exclusives because usually they get paid more in advance or get funded for their projects.

Multi-platform development do have some negatives but not every PC gaming is hardcore like you guys with uber rig, high end gpu, whatever. You'll be surprised there's still so many people with low to med end rig, some with onboard gpu

and can't run games at highest setting. There's small scale of gamers who are hardcore so the fault isn't always on consoles. Other developers actually put attempt to create superior ports for PC like GTAIV, GoW1, Assassin Creed, Halo 2, and few others with higher resolution textures, new graphical features and new contents... but as usual, people still complain or doesn't sell well. It's hard.

**sammy sung** · 06-14-10, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nekrosoft13

they still do, if they would grow a ****ing brain and stop buying RROD_boxes.

Have to quote Mr hunt for that one nekro

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Originally Posted by Mr. Hunt

Amazing logic.

Sean_W · 06-14-10, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NarcissistZero

Very few people do not understand the business reasons at work... I don't see how understanding that means you aren't pissed about losing a game or developer however.

Exactly. The excuse is 'it's business' but gamers' expect game houses to give them games and exclusivity is a bad thing for gamers.

If you happen to have that platform them great but exclusive games are only good for making lots of money, that's no good for the gamers. Do gamers get a better game by exclusiveness? No. Do gamers get it cheaper? No. Do gamers benefit from there being a big EA or Microsoft logo on their game? No.

Personally, I cannot think of one good reason why exclusive deals are good for gamers because that's what it should be all about.

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