NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 vs. ATI Radeon HD 5870

[mailman2]

Originally Posted by john19055

.All the cards wre running at default speeds,once you overclock the GTX 480 it will pull ahead farther.

True, but if power consumption and heat are an issue you need to be careful. An over clocked GTX 480 will draw a lot more power.

[Ancient76]

Originally Posted by john19055

when you look at this new review ,the GTX 480 and the HD5870 run neck in neck in games useing fraps with real wold results,and the Min frames on the HD5870 does'nt look as bad as I have seen other reviews.All the cards wre running at default speeds,once you overclock the GTX 480 it will pull ahead father.http://www.techspot.com/review/283-g...adeon-hd-5800/

I don't believe to techspot. This test tells a different story:

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...s-fiction.html

[mailman2]

Originally Posted by Ancient76

I don't believe to techspot. This test tells a different story:

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...s-fiction.html

You didnt read the techspot article then.

For measuring performance we are using Fraps, recording the minimum and average frame rates of each graphics card. As mentioned before, for this article we are including a frame rate timeline that should suggest how each graphics card performed at any given moment compared to the others. In games such as Wolfenstein where we'd normally use a pre-recorded timedemo to measure performance we have instead recorded actual gameplay.

They benchmarked using Fraps in game too.

[snowmanwithahat]

I'm pretty much an nvidia fan boy.... but there's no reason you should pass up a 5870 for a 470

[Ancient76]

Originally Posted by mailman2

You didnt read the techspot article then.

For measuring performance we are using Fraps, recording the minimum and average frame rates of each graphics card. As mentioned before, for this article we are including a frame rate timeline that should suggest how each graphics card performed at any given moment compared to the others. In games such as Wolfenstein where we'd normally use a pre-recorded timedemo to measure performance we have instead recorded actual gameplay.

They benchmarked using Fraps in game too.

I've read it a long time ago. Did you read hardwarecanucks article:

In a general canvassing of over two dozen English-speaking tech websites we found a wide swath of benchmarks being used; from timedemos to stand-alone programs to in-game benchmarks to walkthroughs. What we also saw at times was a general lack of information beyond a game’s title regarding the actual type of benchmark used. For the most part it seemed many websites were using in-game benchmarking tools (mostly “rolling” demos) instead of actual gameplay and coming up with some interesting results. This along with comments in several forums got us wondering: is there a “right” way to benchmark a particular game? In addition, do these in-game or stand-alone benchmarking programs –like the recently released AvP DX11 test- represent in-game performance? If not, do they even provide an accurate enough analysis for a writer to formulate a conclusion about a given product? Well, we’re about to find out

[Intel17]

A little more reasoned argument:

If you ever go SLI, the 2x 470 would probably beat 2x 5870s.

[john19055]

Really if you overclock the GTX 470 it is just as fast as a HD5870 ,and when you overclock a HD5870 you get very little gain,and with a GTX 470 you get a big gain.Right now you can find a GTX 470 for $286, which IMO would make it a better deal then a HD5870 for $389.And if you get two GTX 470's and run it in SLI you get even better gains.The GTX480 is really just a big step up from a HD5870.I have looked at ever benchmark I can find.IF you run the cards at default then the HD5870 is going to be faster in most games ,but who really runs a card a default if it come with overclocking software not me,I try to get everthing out of the card I can.I know it draws more power and my run a little hotter ,but my three GTX 280 where not quiet by no means.It just comes down to what brand you like the best because all of them are good cards.But IMO a GTX 470 at $286 is a better deal then a HD5870 at $389

[Kain]

Will an Intel Core i5-750 be able to "keep up" with either of these graphics cards or will this processor be a bottleneck? I'm pretty sure that if I overclock it to around 4GHz (like what most people achieve with this processor) it should be fine, but what about at or around stock speeds?

[john19055]

If you are going to run at stock speeds you might as well save money and go with a amd system you can Phenom II X4 955 black edition with a unlocked multipler and the mother board would be cheaper..But a i5-750 clock at 4gig would be plenty for a GTX 470 ,480 or HD 5870 or the 5850.