8800GTX Dying...GTX 460?

stncttr908 · 07-13-10, 08:06 AM

Hey everyone. Sorry about another "I have _____, should I buy _____?" thread, but I've been somewhat out of the hardware game these past few months. It looks like my 8800GTX might be giving up the ghost and I only have two precious weeks before SC2 is out!

So, is the 8800GTX -> GTX 460 jump worth it, or do I just try and get an RMA for the 8800? Keep in mind this is with the system in my sig - E4300 CPU @ 3.2GHz. The review benchies for the card look great and all, but that's with a Core i7/DDR3 base, not an aging C2D.

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards....=474&card2=632

Raw spec numbers look great and there is large amount of overclocking potential, but again, I'm concerned my base system is going to hold me back from the true performance increases.

Thanks for your help. =)

ragejg · 07-13-10, 08:12 AM

Bah, do it.

I had some CPU limitation goin' on with my GTX 460 review and it did just fine.

stncttr908 · 07-13-10, 08:15 AM

Bah, I WANT to just do it, but $$$ be tight.

Oh, and my laptop's 8400GS died last week.

ragejg · 07-13-10, 09:09 AM

Screw the laptop, get the GF104.

stncttr908 · 07-13-10, 09:29 AM

LOL...anyone else? =D

josiahsuarez · 07-13-10, 09:52 AM

what you'll get with the GPU upgrade is the ability to increase your resolution without impacting your frame rate, and the 460 is definitely an upgrade over an 8800. if your CPU is inadequate that is another issue, but a C2D@3.2GHz should be fine. as to cost, if your budget is ~$200 GTX 460 is your best bet.

if you're curious here's a benchmark:

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=639790

stncttr908 · 07-13-10, 10:12 AM

Thanks for that. Looks like my CPU @3.2GHz won't be holding me back too much in SC2 at least.

Nice jump here for Bad Company 2 +/- a few FPS since the 8800GTS 512MB might be ever so slightly slower than the 8800GTX.

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...iew/page11.asp

AthlonXP1800 · 07-13-10, 02:34 PM

Just get GTX 460 now and RMA 8800GTX too then you probably will get GTX 280 card, after that you can sell the replacement on ebay. I did the same when BFG Geforce 6800GT died and bought Leadtek Geforce 6600GT while I RMAed BFG Geforce 6800GT and got replacement then I sold Geforce 6600GT on ebay.

Dont bother think about waste around $600 on Core i7/DDR3 base, they wont last much long until it replace by Sandy Bridge for mainstream later 2010 and the high end in 2011. Your motherboard will be fine by flash latest BIOS and upgrade E4300 to Q9550 E0 CPU for $200 or less on ebay and overclock to 4GHz to get around same performance as 4GHz Core i7 920/930 in games.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid..._11.html#sect0

Core i7, Q9550, E4300 CPU scaling in games:

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/778-...intel-amd.html

Geforce GTX 460 10 CPUs scaling in games:

http://lab501.ro/placi-video/gigabyt...0-procesoare/7

stncttr908 · 07-13-10, 08:51 PM

Strangely enough, I'm typing this from my desktop. Display got a signal right away, no screen corruption or anything.

JasonPC · 07-13-10, 08:59 PM

Starcraft II must not take very good advantage of quad cores. The dual core counterparts seem to do just as well or better because of higher clocks.

supra · 07-13-10, 09:09 PM

Im in the same situation as you.

Im still running a 8800GTX too and gonna jump to the 460 1GB.

I say go for it!

ragejg · 07-13-10, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonPC

Starcraft II must not take very good advantage of quad cores. The dual core counterparts seem to do just as well or better because of higher clocks.

Looks like it cares about clockspeed more than cores, yeah.

07-13-10, 08:06 AM	#1
stncttr908 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 4,496	8800GTX Dying...GTX 460? Hey everyone. Sorry about another "I have _____, should I buy _____?" thread, but I've been somewhat out of the hardware game these past few months. It looks like my 8800GTX might be giving up the ghost and I only have two precious weeks before SC2 is out! So, is the 8800GTX -> GTX 460 jump worth it, or do I just try and get an RMA for the 8800? Keep in mind this is with the system in my sig - E4300 CPU @ 3.2GHz. The review benchies for the card look great and all, but that's with a Core i7/DDR3 base, not an aging C2D. http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards....=474&card2=632 Raw spec numbers look great and there is large amount of overclocking potential, but again, I'm concerned my base system is going to hold me back from the true performance increases. Thanks for your help. =) __________________ PC - \| Core i7-2600K @ stock \| Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3 \| 4GB Patriot Sector 5 DDR3 \| Galaxy GTX 460 1GB @ stock \| Corsair Force 120GB SSD \| Seagate 1TB 7200RPM \| 320GB Seagate 7200.10 \| 2x Seagate 500GB USB 2.0 \| Lite-On 20x SATA DVD+RW \| Silverstone TJ-09 \| Corsair 620W PSU \| Logitech Z-5500s \| Sennheiser HD-570 headphones \| Samsung 2494LW \| Laptop - \| Dell Inspiron 1420 \| C2D T7300 (2.0GHz, 4MB cache) \| 2GB DDR2-667 \| 160GB 7200RPM HDD \| DVD +/- RW \| 14.1" WXGA+ (1440x900) \| Broadcom 802.11g \| NVIDIA 8400M GS 128MB \|

07-13-10, 08:12 AM	#2
ragejg nV News Alumni Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Finger Lakes of Hell, NY Posts: 5,399	Re: 8800GTX Dying...GTX 460? Bah, do it. I had some CPU limitation goin' on with my GTX 460 review and it did just fine. __________________ 2010-2011 Reviews: GTX 570 \| GTX 580 \| GTS 450 \| GTX 460 \| GTX 465 Pre-2010 Reviews: 6600 GT \| XMS 4400 DDR \| SilenX Cooler \| 6800 \| 5900 XT \| Personal Cinema \| 5900 NU ______________________________________________ Phenom II x6 1090t @ 4.0 ghz \| Asus M498TD-EVO Am3 SLI nForce 980a \| 2x EVGA GTX 560 SLI \| 2x4gb DDR3-1333 \| Antec EarthWatts EA650 PSU \| 60gb Mushkin Calisto Enhanced Sandforce SSD \| 2x WD2500KS RAID 0 \| Sunbeam Tuniq 3 case \| 24" Asus 19x10 LED LCD \| 26" Panasonic 720p TV \| Sidewinder X5 mouse \| Logitech MX5500 & Revolution mouse \| Altec Lansing 5.1 THX-Certified audio \| Win 7 Ultimate \| desk \| couch "Stars must die so that I may live. I... stepped out of a Supernova."

07-13-10, 08:15 AM	#3
stncttr908 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 4,496	Re: 8800GTX Dying...GTX 460? Bah, I WANT to just do it, but $$$ be tight. Oh, and my laptop's 8400GS died last week. __________________ PC - \| Core i7-2600K @ stock \| Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3 \| 4GB Patriot Sector 5 DDR3 \| Galaxy GTX 460 1GB @ stock \| Corsair Force 120GB SSD \| Seagate 1TB 7200RPM \| 320GB Seagate 7200.10 \| 2x Seagate 500GB USB 2.0 \| Lite-On 20x SATA DVD+RW \| Silverstone TJ-09 \| Corsair 620W PSU \| Logitech Z-5500s \| Sennheiser HD-570 headphones \| Samsung 2494LW \| Laptop - \| Dell Inspiron 1420 \| C2D T7300 (2.0GHz, 4MB cache) \| 2GB DDR2-667 \| 160GB 7200RPM HDD \| DVD +/- RW \| 14.1" WXGA+ (1440x900) \| Broadcom 802.11g \| NVIDIA 8400M GS 128MB \|

07-13-10, 09:09 AM	#4
ragejg nV News Alumni Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Finger Lakes of Hell, NY Posts: 5,399	Re: 8800GTX Dying...GTX 460? Screw the laptop, get the GF104. __________________ 2010-2011 Reviews: GTX 570 \| GTX 580 \| GTS 450 \| GTX 460 \| GTX 465 Pre-2010 Reviews: 6600 GT \| XMS 4400 DDR \| SilenX Cooler \| 6800 \| 5900 XT \| Personal Cinema \| 5900 NU ______________________________________________ Phenom II x6 1090t @ 4.0 ghz \| Asus M498TD-EVO Am3 SLI nForce 980a \| 2x EVGA GTX 560 SLI \| 2x4gb DDR3-1333 \| Antec EarthWatts EA650 PSU \| 60gb Mushkin Calisto Enhanced Sandforce SSD \| 2x WD2500KS RAID 0 \| Sunbeam Tuniq 3 case \| 24" Asus 19x10 LED LCD \| 26" Panasonic 720p TV \| Sidewinder X5 mouse \| Logitech MX5500 & Revolution mouse \| Altec Lansing 5.1 THX-Certified audio \| Win 7 Ultimate \| desk \| couch "Stars must die so that I may live. I... stepped out of a Supernova."

07-13-10, 09:29 AM	#5
stncttr908 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 4,496	Re: 8800GTX Dying...GTX 460? LOL...anyone else? =D __________________ PC - \| Core i7-2600K @ stock \| Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3 \| 4GB Patriot Sector 5 DDR3 \| Galaxy GTX 460 1GB @ stock \| Corsair Force 120GB SSD \| Seagate 1TB 7200RPM \| 320GB Seagate 7200.10 \| 2x Seagate 500GB USB 2.0 \| Lite-On 20x SATA DVD+RW \| Silverstone TJ-09 \| Corsair 620W PSU \| Logitech Z-5500s \| Sennheiser HD-570 headphones \| Samsung 2494LW \| Laptop - \| Dell Inspiron 1420 \| C2D T7300 (2.0GHz, 4MB cache) \| 2GB DDR2-667 \| 160GB 7200RPM HDD \| DVD +/- RW \| 14.1" WXGA+ (1440x900) \| Broadcom 802.11g \| NVIDIA 8400M GS 128MB \|

07-13-10, 09:52 AM	#6
josiahsuarez Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 739	Re: 8800GTX Dying...GTX 460? what you'll get with the GPU upgrade is the ability to increase your resolution without impacting your frame rate, and the 460 is definitely an upgrade over an 8800. if your CPU is inadequate that is another issue, but a C2D@3.2GHz should be fine. as to cost, if your budget is ~$200 GTX 460 is your best bet. if you're curious here's a benchmark: http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=639790

07-13-10, 10:12 AM	#7
stncttr908 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 4,496	Re: 8800GTX Dying...GTX 460? Thanks for that. Looks like my CPU @3.2GHz won't be holding me back too much in SC2 at least. Nice jump here for Bad Company 2 +/- a few FPS since the 8800GTS 512MB might be ever so slightly slower than the 8800GTX. http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...iew/page11.asp __________________ PC - \| Core i7-2600K @ stock \| Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3 \| 4GB Patriot Sector 5 DDR3 \| Galaxy GTX 460 1GB @ stock \| Corsair Force 120GB SSD \| Seagate 1TB 7200RPM \| 320GB Seagate 7200.10 \| 2x Seagate 500GB USB 2.0 \| Lite-On 20x SATA DVD+RW \| Silverstone TJ-09 \| Corsair 620W PSU \| Logitech Z-5500s \| Sennheiser HD-570 headphones \| Samsung 2494LW \| Laptop - \| Dell Inspiron 1420 \| C2D T7300 (2.0GHz, 4MB cache) \| 2GB DDR2-667 \| 160GB 7200RPM HDD \| DVD +/- RW \| 14.1" WXGA+ (1440x900) \| Broadcom 802.11g \| NVIDIA 8400M GS 128MB \|

07-13-10, 02:34 PM	#8
AthlonXP1800 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 4,352	Re: 8800GTX Dying...GTX 460? Just get GTX 460 now and RMA 8800GTX too then you probably will get GTX 280 card, after that you can sell the replacement on ebay. I did the same when BFG Geforce 6800GT died and bought Leadtek Geforce 6600GT while I RMAed BFG Geforce 6800GT and got replacement then I sold Geforce 6600GT on ebay. Dont bother think about waste around $600 on Core i7/DDR3 base, they wont last much long until it replace by Sandy Bridge for mainstream later 2010 and the high end in 2011. Your motherboard will be fine by flash latest BIOS and upgrade E4300 to Q9550 E0 CPU for $200 or less on ebay and overclock to 4GHz to get around same performance as 4GHz Core i7 920/930 in games. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid..._11.html#sect0 Core i7, Q9550, E4300 CPU scaling in games: http://www.hardware.fr/articles/778-...intel-amd.html Geforce GTX 460 10 CPUs scaling in games: http://lab501.ro/placi-video/gigabyt...0-procesoare/7 __________________ Intel Core i7 3770K, Corsair H80 liquid cooler with Noctua S12-1200 fan, ASUS P8Z77V with UEFI 1606, 16GB Samsung Green 30nm DDR3-RAM, Pioneer DVR-217DBK 22x DVD-RW, Corsair AX850 PSU, Western Digital 2TB SATA3 hard drive, Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic, CanonScan N650U scanner, Microsoft Internet Keyboard, ASDA Wheel Mouse Optical, Sirus's 2 3D speakers, 32inch Sharp LC32LE600 LED TV, EVGA Geforce GTX 670 SC 4GB with Geforce 306.23 driver, 30Mb broadband Virgin Media VMDG480 Super Hub, Aspire Xplorer Midi Tower, Windows 8 Pro 64bit.

07-13-10, 08:51 PM	#9
stncttr908 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 4,496	Re: 8800GTX Dying...GTX 460? Strangely enough, I'm typing this from my desktop. Display got a signal right away, no screen corruption or anything. __________________ PC - \| Core i7-2600K @ stock \| Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3 \| 4GB Patriot Sector 5 DDR3 \| Galaxy GTX 460 1GB @ stock \| Corsair Force 120GB SSD \| Seagate 1TB 7200RPM \| 320GB Seagate 7200.10 \| 2x Seagate 500GB USB 2.0 \| Lite-On 20x SATA DVD+RW \| Silverstone TJ-09 \| Corsair 620W PSU \| Logitech Z-5500s \| Sennheiser HD-570 headphones \| Samsung 2494LW \| Laptop - \| Dell Inspiron 1420 \| C2D T7300 (2.0GHz, 4MB cache) \| 2GB DDR2-667 \| 160GB 7200RPM HDD \| DVD +/- RW \| 14.1" WXGA+ (1440x900) \| Broadcom 802.11g \| NVIDIA 8400M GS 128MB \|

07-13-10, 08:59 PM	#10
JasonPC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,103	Re: 8800GTX Dying...GTX 460? Starcraft II must not take very good advantage of quad cores. The dual core counterparts seem to do just as well or better because of higher clocks.

07-13-10, 09:09 PM	#11
supra 2JZ powered Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Aus Posts: 1,321	Re: 8800GTX Dying...GTX 460? Im in the same situation as you. Im still running a 8800GTX too and gonna jump to the 460 1GB. I say go for it! __________________