Enable audio through HDMI on GT240 - Page 6

andrewju · 07-30-10, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Warren

andrewju,

Can you please provide an "nvidia bug report" (see forum sticky post), and also a copy of /proc/asound/card*/eld*, from when you are playing audio through MPlayer. Thanks.

Sure!

Code:

# cat /proc/asound/card*/eld*
monitor_present         1
eld_valid               1
monitor_name            SONY TV

connection_type         HDMI
eld_version             [0x2] CEA-861D or below
edid_version            [0x3] CEA-861-B, C or D
manufacture_id          0xd94d
product_id              0x8400
port_id                 0x20000
support_hdcp            0
support_ai              0
audio_sync_delay        0
speakers                [0x1] FL/FR
sad_count               1
sad0_coding_type        [0x1] LPCM
sad0_channels           2
sad0_rates              [0xe0] 44100 48000 88200
sad0_bits               [0xe0000] 16 20 24

andrewju · 07-31-10, 03:11 AM

I discovered that adding '-srate 44100' or '-srate 48000' to mplayer run string, solves the problem of having no audio in the "problematic" files. This doesn't look like a good solution to me, though...

lintweaker · 07-31-10, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewju

Sure!

Code:

# cat /proc/asound/card*/eld*
monitor_present         1
eld_valid               1
monitor_name            SONY TV

connection_type         HDMI
eld_version             [0x2] CEA-861D or below
edid_version            [0x3] CEA-861-B, C or D
manufacture_id          0xd94d
product_id              0x8400
port_id                 0x20000
support_hdcp            0
support_ai              0
audio_sync_delay        0
speakers                [0x1] FL/FR
sad_count               1
sad0_coding_type        [0x1] LPCM
sad0_channels           2
sad0_rates              [0xe0] 44100 48000 88200
sad0_bits               [0xe0000] 16 20 24

I guess you are right about the mismatch betweens your clip's sample rate and the minimum your TV supports. I also have trouble playing sounds which do not have at least the minimum sample rate of 44100 (even when using plughw).

On my system there are several 22050 Hz files in /usr/share/sounds/purple which won't produce sound from HDMI out. Only after upconversion to 44100 I get sound (tested with sndfile-resample).

andrewju · 07-31-10, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lintweaker

I guess you are right about the mismatch betweens your clip's sample rate and the minimum your TV supports. I also have trouble playing sounds which do not have at least the minimum sample rate of 44100 (even when using plughw).

I never had such problems with an older card (8600GT). Is it possible that upconversion was somehow done by itself, without me specifying it in mplayer options?

Other question is what are the side effects of having an upconversion "by default". What will happen if I have a DD / DTS audio stream and try to upconvert it as well?

EDIT: In my mplayer log I posted earlier, it looks like mplayer detects a 32000 Hz stream in the file, but outputs only a 22050Hz stream (if I do not specifically tell it to upconvert to 44100). I think this might be the key... How do I find out why mplayer does this 32000 --> 22050 conversion?

**Stephen Warren** · 08-02-10, 10:16 AM

andrewju, from your description, it sounds like MPlayer simply gives up and doesn't output any sound if the HW doesn't support the sample rate of the audio in the file. Perhaps somebody more familiar with MPlayer's internals can confirm/deny this behaviour.

Your TV doesn't support 22050/32000 directly, which is relevant, because digital audio is being sent directly to it with your new card. I think with your 8600, you were using the analog output from your sound-card and looping that into the 8600 using a cable? In that case, the sound card may have supported those other sample rates, which the 8600 then digitized at one of the TV's supported sample rates?

andrewju · 08-02-10, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Warren

andrewju, from your description, it sounds like MPlayer simply gives up and doesn't output any sound if the HW doesn't support the sample rate of the audio in the file. Perhaps somebody more familiar with MPlayer's internals can confirm/deny this behaviour.

If I understand mplayer log correctly, it does output sound. But it converts the sampling rate from 33000 to 22050 Hz, for some (unknown) reason.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Warren

Your TV doesn't support 22050/32000 directly, which is relevant, because digital audio is being sent directly to it with your new card.

I played with 'speaker-test' a bit and it looks like my TV is able to decode 33000 Hz stream (I can hear the test noise), but not 22050 Hz one. So I think my sound could have been fine, if mplayer didn't change the sampling rate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Warren

I think with your 8600, you were using the analog output from your sound-card and looping that into the 8600 using a cable? In that case, the sound card may have supported those other sample rates, which the 8600 then digitized at one of the TV's supported sample rates?

I used an S/PDIF cable from my onboard audio to the 8600GT. So it wasn't analog, but still it was quite a different set up. Unfortunately I don't have any mplayer logs stored since that time, so I can't check how it was behaving in that configuration...

**Stephen Warren** · 08-03-10, 10:55 AM

I wonder if the problem is this: From your "eld" file, your TV only supports 44100 48000 88200. However, from /proc/asound/card1/codec#1, the audio device exposes more rates: 32000 44100 48000 88200 96000 176400 192000. I guess for 22050/32000 audio, MPlayer or the ALSA library up-converts it to the lowest rate supported by the audio codec (32000) and the TV simply ignores any audio at this unsupported sample rate. I'll have to look into how this is meant to work...

Could you try one more test for me: Please try playing back a 96000Hz sample (use -srate to upconvert to that). I assume that'll also appear to succeed in MPlayer, but again you'll hear no audio?

**Stephen Warren** · 08-03-10, 12:48 PM

andrewju, I asked on the ALSA developers mailing list, and the ALSA driver is supposed to limit the list of supported sample rates to those that really are; basically what I said just above. However, this code isn't implemented yet, and I believe should be part of the core ALSA audio driver, rather than something NVIDIA-specific:

http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipe...st/030109.html

Unfortunately, that probably means that NVIDIA isn't going to be able to do anything about this in the short-term.

That said, given ALSA's flexible configuration files, I wonder if this problem could be solved there; you'd probably want to ask about that on the alsa-users mailing list.

**Stephen Warren** · 08-05-10, 01:29 PM

andrewju, are you able to recompile the ALSA kernel driver yourself? If so, the patch linked below might help with your issue.

http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipe...st/030209.html

andrewju · 08-06-10, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Warren

andrewju, are you able to recompile the ALSA kernel driver yourself? If so, the patch linked below might help with your issue.

http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipe...st/030209.html

Ah, I'll give it a try! Thanks!

Will post here my results afterward.

zim2dive · 08-13-10, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zim2dive

Ok, moving sideways

Code:

>more /etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf 
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel
options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=0 probe_mask=0xffff,0xfff2

at this point, I have working sound from 1,3... and I have sound from Rhythmbox.. the Sound preference panel refuses to launch. So does the Pulseaudio sound panel, they used to launch. I'm using

Code:

pcm.!default hdmi:NVidia
pcm:iec958 hdmi:NVidia

EDIT: Flash sound ok after all.
EDIT2: I got Sound panel and Pulseaudio volume working. .I had to edit /etc/pulse/default.pa and comment out the line

Code:

load-module module-alsa-sink device=hw:1,3

Now I can launch the panel and get system sounds out HDMI. Need to go back and test everything else (will be tomorrow).

Working: *maybe* everything

Is there anything about this setup that would prevent me getting audio out my on-board analog outputs?

ie. I'd like to use HDMI audio to my AVR, but also send the front left+right of the same audio out the analog 2-ch output on the mobo rear connector for use in Zone 2 (speakers outside on the back deck).

I have not been able to get *any* audio out that port... even when I specify speaker-test with 0,0.

I wasn't sure if the .asoundrc and/or modprobe could be redirecting everything away from 0,0 to my HDMI on 1,3.

I'm going to play with Alsa slave/copy over the weekend, but was surprised that 0,0 didn't work with speakertest (suggesting some more basic level issue)

thanks,
Mike

**Stephen Warren** · 08-13-10, 10:27 AM

andrewju,

FYI, the patch I mentioned is now in ALSA git: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kerne...3382644257cfc3

Also, it's in the very latest snapshot file at ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kerne...a/alsa-driver/ (alsa-driver-snapshot.tar.bz2, not any of the dated versions yet)

07-31-10, 03:11 AM	#62
andrewju Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 12	Re: Enable audio through HDMI on GT240 I discovered that adding '-srate 44100' or '-srate 48000' to mplayer run string, solves the problem of having no audio in the "problematic" files. This doesn't look like a good solution to me, though...

08-02-10, 10:16 AM	#65
Stephen Warren Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,327	Re: Enable audio through HDMI on GT240 andrewju, from your description, it sounds like MPlayer simply gives up and doesn't output any sound if the HW doesn't support the sample rate of the audio in the file. Perhaps somebody more familiar with MPlayer's internals can confirm/deny this behaviour. Your TV doesn't support 22050/32000 directly, which is relevant, because digital audio is being sent directly to it with your new card. I think with your 8600, you were using the analog output from your sound-card and looping that into the 8600 using a cable? In that case, the sound card may have supported those other sample rates, which the 8600 then digitized at one of the TV's supported sample rates?

08-03-10, 10:55 AM	#67
Stephen Warren Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,327	Re: Enable audio through HDMI on GT240 I wonder if the problem is this: From your "eld" file, your TV only supports 44100 48000 88200. However, from /proc/asound/card1/codec#1, the audio device exposes more rates: 32000 44100 48000 88200 96000 176400 192000. I guess for 22050/32000 audio, MPlayer or the ALSA library up-converts it to the lowest rate supported by the audio codec (32000) and the TV simply ignores any audio at this unsupported sample rate. I'll have to look into how this is meant to work... Could you try one more test for me: Please try playing back a 96000Hz sample (use -srate to upconvert to that). I assume that'll also appear to succeed in MPlayer, but again you'll hear no audio?

08-03-10, 12:48 PM	#68
Stephen Warren Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,327	Re: Enable audio through HDMI on GT240 andrewju, I asked on the ALSA developers mailing list, and the ALSA driver is supposed to limit the list of supported sample rates to those that really are; basically what I said just above. However, this code isn't implemented yet, and I believe should be part of the core ALSA audio driver, rather than something NVIDIA-specific: http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipe...st/030109.html Unfortunately, that probably means that NVIDIA isn't going to be able to do anything about this in the short-term. That said, given ALSA's flexible configuration files, I wonder if this problem could be solved there; you'd probably want to ask about that on the alsa-users mailing list.

08-05-10, 01:29 PM	#69
Stephen Warren Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,327	Re: Enable audio through HDMI on GT240 andrewju, are you able to recompile the ALSA kernel driver yourself? If so, the patch linked below might help with your issue. http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipe...st/030209.html

08-13-10, 10:27 AM	#72
Stephen Warren Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,327	Re: Enable audio through HDMI on GT240 andrewju, FYI, the patch I mentioned is now in ALSA git: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kerne...3382644257cfc3 Also, it's in the very latest snapshot file at ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kerne...a/alsa-driver/ (alsa-driver-snapshot.tar.bz2, not any of the dated versions yet)