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Old 11-10-03, 09:57 PM   #1
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Default RH9 + Geforce2 + 4496 = lockup

Hi,
I've tried to do my homework on this board and despite the success some people have had, their solutions don't resolve my problem.

The problem:
I booted into run-level 3 and ran NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4496-pkg2.run in order to install the IA32 driver for my Geforce2 MX/400MX AGP card. I modify my XF86Config file as instructed by README and start X with 'startx.' The screen goes black and then their a bunch of random garbage characters all over the screen. The system locks. The first few times, I could do an ctrl-alt-backspace to shutdown. I'm not sure what I've done since then, but now I have to hit the reset button on the computer to reboot.

My suspicion: My motherboard has the SiS746 chipset and isn't supported well by my kernel. I'm up the creek until there's a newer kernel. I have this suspicion because of this thread on this board:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...ghlight=L7S7A2

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...ghlight=L7S7A2

The poster seemed to have trouble with his ECS L7S7A2 motherboard and Geforce4 Ti4200. That's the motherboard I have. Different card, but same phenomenon. Garbled junk is displayed on the screen. That thread ended with the poster buying a new motherboard.

I've read other threads where people flash their bioses

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...threadid=19578

or change their bios settings to PNP Aware OS=NO and Allocate IRQ for PCI Vga=YES.

I've done all that (newest bios, plus using those bios settings). I've also tried passing acpi=off and apm=off as arguments to the kernel command (right word?) from my Grub boot loader screen. They don't appear to be working however, since they don't complete correctly as they should when I used tab. So maybe there is still something to try here. Grub keeps telling me that the 'device isn't recognized' when I put acpi=off as an argument. I've tried putting it befoe and after my "hdc=ide-scsi" that is automatically added.

The readme file suggests checking host of files for correct locations, such as /usr/lib/libGL.so.x.y.z, etc. I've checked all that. All correct. x.y.z is 1.0.4496 in my case. I don't have duplicate files that might be linked in place of the files that are supposed to be linked.

I'm pretty sure that I'm correctly modifying XF86Config. I add 'Load "glx"' and also comment out 'Load "dri".' I don't have a 'Load GLcore' to comment out. I also comment out the "dri" section at the end of my XF86Config file. (I've tried just commenting out 'Load "dri"' and also that together with the "dri" section.)

I've checked nvidia-installer.log. No errors.

My XFree86.0.log file shows that it stops at the same spot where the first poster's log file stopped (the first thread I list):

(II) NVIDIA(0): AGP4x successfully initialized
(II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1280x1024"

I've included these files in an attached zip:
dmesg.log
1)XF86Config.olddriver (for the nv driver)
2)XFree86.log.0.olddriver (what happens when I use nv, which works)
3)XF86Config.newdriver (for the new nvidia driver 4496)
4)XFree86.log.0.newdriver (what happens when I use the new driver)
5)nvidia-installer.log
6)dmesg.log (I output dmesg into this.)

I log into run level 3 and copy either 1 or 3 over XF86Config depending on whether I want x to actually start or whether I want to try, try again.

XF86Config.newdriver
# XFree86 4 configuration created by redhat-config-xfree86

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "DevInputMice" "AlwaysCore"
EndSection

Section "Files"

# RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally
# no need to change the default.
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.
RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
FontPath "unix/:7100"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "dbe"
Load "extmod"
Load "fbdevhw"
Load "glx"
Load "record"
Load "freetype"
Load "type1"
# Load "dri"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
# Option "Xleds" "1 2 3"
# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.
# Option "XkbDisable"
# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
# Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
# Option "XkbModel" "microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
# Option "XkbLayout" "de"
# or:
# Option "XkbLayout" "de"
# Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
# Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps"
# Or if you just want both to be control, use:
# Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps"
#
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "keyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

# If the normal CorePointer mouse is not a USB mouse then
# this input device can be used in AlwaysCore mode to let you
# also use USB mice at the same time.
Identifier "DevInputMice"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "SyncMaster"
DisplaySize 320 240
HorizSync 30.0 - 71.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0
Option "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "nvidia"
VendorName "Videocard vendor"
BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX (generic)"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

I'll post XFree86.log.0.newdriver in another post.


Two questions:
(1) Do you think that I can do anything given my motherboard (E7S7A2 with SiS746 chipset) or am I up the creek until there's a new kernel (as the first thread I listed seems to suggest)?
(2) If I can do anything, what do you suggest?

Many thanks,
Matthew Pugsley
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Old 11-10-03, 10:00 PM   #2
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XFree86 Version 4.3.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.3.0-2)
Release Date: 27 February 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.20-3bigmem i686 [ELF]
Build Date: 27 February 2003
Build Host: porky.devel.redhat.com

Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
OS Kernel: Linux version 2.4.20-20.9 (bhcompile@porky.devel.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.2.2 20030222 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.2-5)) #1 Mon Aug 18 11:27:43 EDT 2003
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Thu Jun 19 05:36:14 2003
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config"
(==) ServerLayout "Default Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) | |-->Device "Videocard0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
(**) XKB: model: "pc105"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) |-->Input Device "DevInputMice"
(**) FontPath set to "unix/:7100"
(**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(--) using VT number 7

(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such device)
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.2
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.6
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.4
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.2
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.4
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6

(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x8000003c, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1039,0746 card 1019,1808 rev 02 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1039,0002 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:02:0: chip 1039,0008 card 0000,0000 rev 25 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:02:5: chip 1039,5513 card 1019,1808 rev 00 class 01,01,80 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:02:7: chip 1039,7012 card 1019,1808 rev a0 class 04,01,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:03:0: chip 1039,7001 card 1019,1808 rev 0f class 0c,03,10 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:03:1: chip 1039,7001 card 1019,1808 rev 0f class 0c,03,10 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:03:2: chip 1039,7002 card 1019,1808 rev 00 class 0c,03,20 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:04:0: chip 1039,0900 card 1019,1808 rev 91 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 10de,0110 card 0000,0000 rev b2 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[b]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[b]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[b]
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,2), BCTRL: 0x000a (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0xcdd00000 - 0xcfefffff (0x2200000) MX[b]
(II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0xbda00000 - 0xcdbfffff (0x10200000) MX[b]
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:2:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(--) PCI:*(1:0:0) nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] rev 178, Mem @ 0xce000000/24, 0xc0000000/27, BIOS @ 0xcfef0000/16
(II) Addressable bus resource ranges are
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[b]
[1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[b]
(II) OS-reported resource ranges:
[0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[b](B)
[1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[b]E(B)
[2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
[3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
[4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
[5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
[6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[b]
(II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xd0000000 from 0xd7ffffff to 0xcfffffff
(II) Active PCI resource ranges:
[0] -1 0 0xcfffc000 - 0xcfffcfff (0x1000) MX[b]
[1] -1 0 0xcffff000 - 0xcfffffff (0x1000) MX[b]
[2] -1 0 0xcfffe000 - 0xcfffefff (0x1000) MX[b]
[3] -1 0 0xcfffd000 - 0xcfffdfff (0x1000) MX[b]
[4] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x0) MX[b]O
[5] -1 0 0xcfef0000 - 0xcfefffff (0x10000) MX[b](B)
[6] -1 0 0xc0000000 - 0xc7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[b](B)
[7] -1 0 0xce000000 - 0xceffffff (0x1000000) MX[b](B)
[8] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[b]
[9] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d87f (0x80) IX[b]
[10] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[b]
[11] -1 0 0x0000ff00 - 0x0000ff0f (0x10) IX[b]
(II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps:
[0] -1 0 0xcfffc000 - 0xcfffcfff (0x1000) MX[b]
[1] -1 0 0xcffff000 - 0xcfffffff (0x1000) MX[b]
[2] -1 0 0xcfffe000 - 0xcfffefff (0x1000) MX[b]
[3] -1 0 0xcfffd000 - 0xcfffdfff (0x1000) MX[b]
[4] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x0) MX[b]O
[5] -1 0 0xcfef0000 - 0xcfefffff (0x10000) MX[b](B)
[6] -1 0 0xc0000000 - 0xc7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[b](B)
[7] -1 0 0xce000000 - 0xceffffff (0x1000000) MX[b](B)
[8] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[b]
[9] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d87f (0x80) IX[b]
[10] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[b]
[11] -1 0 0x0000ff00 - 0x0000ff0f (0x10) IX[b]
(II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI:
[0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[b](B)
[1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[b]E(B)
[2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
[3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
[4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
[5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
[6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[b]
(II) All system resource ranges:
[0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[b](B)
[1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[b]E(B)
[2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
[3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
[4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
[5] -1 0 0xcfffc000 - 0xcfffcfff (0x1000) MX[b]
[6] -1 0 0xcffff000 - 0xcfffffff (0x1000) MX[b]
[7] -1 0 0xcfffe000 - 0xcfffefff (0x1000) MX[b]
[8] -1 0 0xcfffd000 - 0xcfffdfff (0x1000) MX[b]
[9] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x0) MX[b]O
[10] -1 0 0xcfef0000 - 0xcfefffff (0x10000) MX[b](B)
[11] -1 0 0xc0000000 - 0xc7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[b](B)
[12] -1 0 0xce000000 - 0xceffffff (0x1000000) MX[b](B)
[13] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
[14] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[b]
[15] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[b]
[16] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d87f (0x80) IX[b]
[17] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[b]
[18] -1 0 0x0000ff00 - 0x0000ff0f (0x10) IX[b]
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a
(II) Module dbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Server Extension
ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a
(II) Module extmod: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Server Extension
ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading extension SHAPE
(II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
(II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS
(II) Loading extension SYNC
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XC-MISC
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension FontCache
(II) Loading extension TOG-CUP
(II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfbdevhw.a
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last part, getting hard to paste all this
(II) NVIDIA(0): AGP 4X successfully initialized
(II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1280x1024"

There's also a bunch of:
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (hsync out of range)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (hsync out of range)

That kind of stuff.

But my monitor IS set to 30-70kHz range for Hsync and my monitor specs say that that's correct:
http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/na...id=753DF-Ivory

You have to click "Specifications" to view them. That's my exact monitor model.

Please let me know if you need more info.

Thank you for your time,
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You've done awesome homework on it. It certainly does look like you've got a problem until you get the new kernel up and running, but here's one thing you can try (unless you've done this already).

Add the nvagp option to the "Device" section (mine):

Section "Device"
Identifier "TI4400"
Driver "nvidia"
Option "NvAGP" "1"
EndSection

If that fails, the I suggest you go ahead and use the 2.6 kernel. There are rpms available from arjanv at RedHat that plug into RH9 very well.. but don't think there is nothing more than rpm -i in the process. You'll need to do a little research and some upgrades to utilities etc.

Here is a nice overview of the process, the ftp for the rpms, and one guy's nice report about his problems with it. I have used these RPMs for the kernel successfully. (2.6 rocks, without question you WANT to be using it, the its just a bit of work to get going at this point)

http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/

http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/799
http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/1587

other helpful reports
http://thomer.com/linux/migrate-to-2.6.html
http://www.fearthecow.net/kernel.html
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Thanks, Lord Morgul. Unfortunately, I work all day, so it'll be late tonight before I can try that. I'll report back with results.

Also, I forgot to mention that I did get the newest glibc rpm from Red Hat, glibc-2.3.2-27.9.i386.rpm and that I'm running kernel 2.4.20-20.9. The kernel revision appears in my log output, but isn't stated in my post.

Maybe I'll be able to play Savage with this hardware!
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Talking WOOOOOO!!!!!

It worked!!! I tried your first suggestion, Lord Morgul, namely to set that NvAGP option to 1 and that fixed it. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

I'm in X with the new driver right now. I get a splash screen, which I definitely didn't get with the old driver, and I'm certain that I used the new config file.

I knew that that option existed, but I had assumed that 3 (the default) would try agpgart and then use nvidia's agp processing if that failed. I assumed that the driver would see that a bunch of garbage being printed was pretty much 'not possible' for agpgart and that it would thus try nvidia's agp processing. It's clear now that it wasn't doing so. It was using agpgart and just sticking with the garbage that it (agpgart, not nvidia's processing) was outputting.

Moral: Don't assume that the computer will do troubleshooting for you, even if the readme claims that it will do so. Sometimes changes have to be manually written to the config file.

I haven't tried applying the new kernel yet. If it's as good as you say, then perhaps I should get it. Due to my busy schedule, I'm kind of at a "don't fix it if it ain't broke" stage. Assuming that Savage works, then I'll have my game, I'll have my MySql server, and I'll have my PHP&MySQl-enabled Apache server with which I can practice PHP. I'll be very happy already.

Thank you very much again,
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If it works satisfactorily, and you don't have 'tweak' time.. don't try the 2.6 kernel just yet. Save that adventure for when you've got some time, because it could go easily, or it might take a good deal of time to work out.

It'll become easier to get working as things progress on releasing it (note it still is considered an unstable testing kernel).
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