Go Back   nV News Forums > Linux Support Forums > NVIDIA Linux

Newegg Daily Deals

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-16-10, 04:21 PM   #73
DBO72
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 6
Default Re: Optimus support for Linux

Quote:
Originally Posted by pootle View Post
[...]Why should you assume that a laptop will support linux when there is no support stated on the product page? I'll bet it doesn't support CP/M, OSX, Windows 98 or VMS either.
The very same NVIDIA-card will work well with Linux if the Laptop does not support Optimus. If you examine the technical specification of a desired Laptop, up to now, it was sufficient to check if the chips are supported by the manufacture (or by the Linux community). Now the things are different, you would find that NVIDIA officially offers Linux-driver for the GPU, however in the small print you can NOW find that the GPUs are only supported if the Laptops has no optimus feature.

This is not funny. And if you read for the first time that a notebook has a special energy-saving feature which only works with WIN7, you do not think that this will make it impossible to use the GPU with Linux.
DBO72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-10, 11:00 AM   #74
pootle
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 13
Default Re: Optimus support for Linux

Quote:
Originally Posted by DBO72 View Post
This is not funny. And if you read for the first time that a notebook has a special energy-saving feature which only works with WIN7, you do not think that this will make it impossible to use the GPU with Linux.
I certainly would not assume it was going to work.
pootle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-10, 02:38 PM   #75
DBO72
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 6
Default Re: Optimus support for Linux

Quote:
Originally Posted by pootle View Post
I certainly would not assume it was going to work.
Direcrtx, SLI, CUDA, PhysX, 3D-Vison, HDMI 1.4, Blue-Ray support .... are all features which were at the beginning or still be or will always be windows only. None of these features made it impossible to use the dGPU on Linux. Unfortunately, in this sense, Optimus is different.
DBO72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-10, 10:05 PM   #76
Deanjo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 301
Default Re: Optimus support for Linux

Quote:
Originally Posted by DBO72 View Post
Direcrtx, SLI, CUDA, PhysX, 3D-Vison, HDMI 1.4, Blue-Ray support .... are all features which were at the beginning or still be or will always be windows only.
Wrong, CUDA was announced for Win/Lin/OS X all at the same time. Out of the features that you list only SLi came later to linux. The rest will more then likely always remain Windows only features for various reasons (DRM or not applicable for example).
Deanjo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-10, 10:40 PM   #77
DBO72
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 6
Default Re: Optimus support for Linux

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deanjo View Post
Wrong, CUDA was announced for Win/Lin/OS X all at the same time. Out of the features that you list only SLi came later to linux.
Ok.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deanjo View Post
The rest will more then likely always remain Windows only features for various reasons (DRM or not applicable for example).
Yes, I agree and I am personally not very interested in them. But does it change the statement that modern cards support (many) windows-only features which do no not break Linux support? In this sense, unfortunately, Optimus is different.
DBO72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-10, 04:06 PM   #78
kRogue
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 19
Default Re: Optimus support for Linux

Physx is also for Linux too.
kRogue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-10, 06:20 PM   #79
artem
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 705
Wink Re: Optimus support for Linux

Quote:
Originally Posted by kRogue View Post
Physx is also for Linux too.
That's obviously a product of your imagination. PhysX is not available for Linux, nor it's been ever available.

BTW, DirectX is available for Linux via gallium, but since Wine developers aren't going to use it anytime soon, let's say it's also a Windows only technology.
artem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-10, 07:17 PM   #80
Civilus
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Russia, Moscow
Posts: 39
Send a message via ICQ to Civilus
Default Re: Optimus support for Linux

artem
Quote:
That's obviously a product of your imagination. PhysX is not available for Linux, nor it's been ever available.
It is avaliable on Linux. Google for it.
__________________
OS: Gentoo Linux, ~amd64. VideoCard: GeForce GTX 470. ASUS P8P67 Deluxe, 2x4GB DDR3-1600 CL9, Core i7 2600k.
Civilus is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 11-21-10, 05:22 AM   #81
artem
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 705
Default Re: Optimus support for Linux

1. There are no applications using PhysX on Linux.
2. The last available version of PhysX is 2.8.0, released November 2007. The current versions of PhysX are available only for Windows.

Do a bit of research before making such statements. If you think for a second, you'll understand that PhysX for Linux is an abandoned/unsupported product which never gained any traction.

I'd say even more. On Windows PhysX is also a semi-abandoned technology - even though NVIDIA tries hard to peddle it to consumers and developers, there are only few game titles using it. In fact I don't know any modern popular game except Mafia 2 where PhysX was used. Unless NVIDIA changes its stance and makes PhysX an open architecture based on computer shaders (it is what it is, if I'm not mistaken, but code safeguards don't allow it to be running on AMD/ATI hardware) PhysX is destined to die a slow and painful death. I don't quite understand why Mr. Jen-Hsun Huang fails to see PhysX gloomy prospects.
artem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-10, 10:46 AM   #82
Licaon
Registered User
 
Licaon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Between the keyboard and the chair.
Posts: 490
Default Re: Optimus support for Linux

Quote:
Originally Posted by artem View Post
1. There are no applications using PhysX on Linux.
2. The last available version of PhysX is 2.8.0, released November 2007. The current versions of PhysX are available only for Windows.

Do a bit of research before making such statements. If you think for a second, you'll understand that PhysX for Linux is an abandoned/unsupported product which never gained any traction.

I'd say even more. On Windows PhysX is also a semi-abandoned technology - even though NVIDIA tries hard to peddle it to consumers and developers, there are only few game titles using it.
1. true
2. well, not really: 2.8.3.3 ( 2010-08-03 ) is available on Linux too

16 games are few true, but it's not yet dead
Licaon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-10, 11:39 AM   #83
artem
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 705
Default Re: Optimus support for Linux

16 games is ... nothing. PhysX was introduced years ago, and even if we only count triple A titles, then less than 1% of games are using PhysX.

Anyway this topic is about Optimus not being supported on Linux. Let's stick to it.
artem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-10, 06:26 AM   #84
Jupp3
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 2
Default Re: Optimus support for Linux

Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronP View Post
We have no plans to support Optimus on Linux at this time.
Are there any plans to add support in the future? Would be nice to know if we should sell our nvidia optimus laptops and replace them with already working ones.
Jupp3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
mplayer vdpau gbil NVIDIA Linux 1243 09-16-10 11:03 AM
nvsound module doesn't work on newer kernels matejo NVIDIA Linux 4 04-20-06 01:36 PM
Dual Booting With Linux in Raid seeker General Linux 28 01-12-06 06:00 PM
NVIDIA support? what support? black screen? rsrtfm NVIDIA Linux 0 11-28-05 03:41 PM

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:04 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 1998 - 2014, nV News.