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Old 11-27-10, 07:16 AM   #13
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Good looking rig you're putting together. I'd check out a few reviews on the graphics card before buying though.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3987/a...range-market/1

My main reasoning is that you mentioned possibly adding another card later, and while both camps have their multi gpu issues from time to time, I do see more complaints about crossfire than I do SLI.

Either way both companies have some great offerings these days.
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Old 11-27-10, 12:47 PM   #14
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^ that's the only thing keeping me from buying a second 5870 atm. heaving a rock solid machine is a priority, and i really dislike having to be messing with drivers, etc etc. I was really expecting many more issues with my 5870, but it has been very solid.
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Old 11-27-10, 12:56 PM   #15
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^ that's the only thing keeping me from buying a second 5870 atm. heaving a rock solid machine is a priority, and i really dislike having to be messing with drivers, etc etc. I was really expecting many more issues with my 5870, but it has been very solid.
I never had anything more than very minor issues running a single ATI card, but I've never rN crossfire either. It's just that the majority of multi gpu complaints I've read about seem to be in the red camp. That's all I can really go by.
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Old 11-27-10, 01:48 PM   #16
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Thanks again for more feedback. I think multi-GPU is something I'd like to avoid given an opportunity.

I'm currently running a machine with dual 6800GTs, and while I enjoy SLI when I have it on...having to reboot when activating it is painful (although, it could be that new drivers could serve me well).

Essentially, when putting this together...I picked out all of the parts besides the GPU, and then tried to get the best for the money I had left.

In other news...its seems that the PSU that I selected now has a $25 rebate, total cost is now under $1000 (and under $950 if I drop 4 GBs of RAM as Bob Saget suggets)
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Old 11-27-10, 06:18 PM   #17
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with a budget, and building for gaming you should be building a phenom X6 rig.
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Old 11-27-10, 08:44 PM   #18
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According to some benchmarks I saw in this thread http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/29...m-1090t-gaming even my older Q9550 is just about as good as a Phenom x6.
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Old 11-28-10, 05:18 AM   #19
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According to some benchmarks I saw in this thread http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/29...m-1090t-gaming even my older Q9550 is just about as good as a Phenom x6.
... And conversely, according to plenty of other reviews, a not too highly overclocked x3 chip around 3.5ghz plays a lot of games in i7 920 territory, and those it's behind in it's not getting dusted or making anything unplayable by any means. ... and an x4 and/or an x6 around the same speeds close the gap or eliminate it altogether.
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Yep but if I had the choice between an i7 950 or an AMD x6 I'd take the i7 950 easily.
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Yep but if I had the choice between an i7 950 or an AMD x6 I'd take the i7 950 easily.
The i7 would probably be the best bet here. UclaBob already said he isn't interested in overclocking. Without overclocking the i7 would give him the best performance.
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I have that PSU and 4G of, I think, the same memory w/ an i5-750, ATI 5870, 3HD (2 mech, 1SSD). I think that the PSU should be fine assuming 1 graphics card. I don't realy like modular PSUs (unless space restrictions demand it); they just provide an additional point of failure (extra connection) and I would rather my money go to the PSU components and design vs connectors. I would go w/ 6G mem and possibly cheaper CPU and move that money towards a better graphics card or perhaps some extra/better fans. I wouldn't discount overclocking; most MBs these days come w/ utilities which make simple OC'ing very easy so, why wouldn't you take an extra few % of performance? You didnt' mention anything about HDs, OS, opty, keyboard, mouse, etc., do you have all of those already?
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Old 11-29-10, 02:11 AM   #23
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Wow...so much great info; I really do appreciate all of the feedback.

A couple of things:

@abtomat74 - Microcenter sounds like an awesome place. Unfortunately, checking their store locations....the nearest one is in California...which is currently two states away from me. Drat! Newegg will have to do for me.

The Phenom X6 is intriguing...but not being too interested in overclocking (yeah, I know...I'm weird or maybe just nervous and scared...just like high school all over again :P); the Intel I7 seems to make more sense....and if I get into overclocking, I'll overclock my 950 and see how that goes.

@BCKator - I think you're right...and the extra bang for the buck just isn't there for a modular PSU. I think I'm going to order the one that you have. So if I scale down to 8 GBs of RAM....that gives me $50 more to spend on a graphics card. That would take me up into the price range of a 470. This has caused me to think about this a lot. The 470 seems to outbench the 6870, but also seems to be much less efficient both power / temperature wise.

I think ideally, I'd just get a 580...but that is definitely out of my price range.

I'm going to order all of the non video card components, but take a some extra time (since the Sapphire 6870 is sold out anyway) to think about getting the 470. Any insight is always welcome!
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If efficiency is what you're after, AMD owns that market. If you are more concerned about raw power, nvidia is the way to go.
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