What's the verdict on Halo's built-in Timedemo?

ragejg · 11-05-03, 06:05 PM

Is it a usable performance indicator? Is it buggy? Does it not enable/disable feature options correctly? Is it worth benchmarking with?

... I have separate gameplay benched already with fraps, but I also have plenty of timedemo results ... I've heard rumblings in many forums debating the timedemo's validity... causing me to question it myself...

**saturnotaku** · 11-06-03, 07:46 AM

It does a good job in doing what it was designed to do. However, I don't like the way it interprets results. Fraps' measurements are more to my liking.

ragejg · 11-06-03, 08:14 AM

It appears to read fps even on the transisitons and the stutters that go along with them... on an average, teh halo timedemo results I've tabulated are ~2pfs lower than when I measure each sequence with fraps... right now the 5900's doin 38 @ 10x7, all highest IQ, no aa/af, specular on @ stock, 41 OC'ed... FRAPS gives me 40/43... without specular, the timedemo gives me 40 and 43, and fraps gives me 42 and 45...

... my cpu must be limiting the perf. increase of disabling specular...

... and why in the world does Particles get turned off in the timedemo? I have it enabled in halo's menu options...

digitalwanderer · 11-06-03, 08:45 AM

It sucks & it's silly!

Why benchmark the cut-scenes? They ain't very representative of the games actual gameplay.

bkswaney · 11-18-03, 01:13 AM

Is it built in the demo?
I have not seen it anywhere?

ragejg · 11-20-03, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by digitalwanderer
It sucks & it's silly!

Why benchmark the cut-scenes? They ain't very representative of the games actual gameplay.

Um, dig... I guess from what I've read, the cut scenes are in fact not part of the equation... TThere's an explanation for it somewhere ... in some faq file, I think.... and in that explanation it speaks of separately benchmarking the scenes... duh...

That duh was to me for making the incorrect observation...

View Poll Results: Thread title says it all... if you've used it, what do you think?
Valid but stresses the system unrealistically	0	0%
Valid as any other benchmark done for the game.	3	42.86%
Invalid because fraps does a better job.	1	14.29%
Invalid... It doesn't work right for one reason or another	3	42.86%
Voters: 7. You may not vote on this poll

11-05-03, 06:05 PM	#1
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11-06-03, 08:14 AM	#3
ragejg nV News Alumni Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Finger Lakes of Hell, NY Posts: 5,399	... It appears to read fps even on the transisitons and the stutters that go along with them... on an average, teh halo timedemo results I've tabulated are ~2pfs lower than when I measure each sequence with fraps... right now the 5900's doin 38 @ 10x7, all highest IQ, no aa/af, specular on @ stock, 41 OC'ed... FRAPS gives me 40/43... without specular, the timedemo gives me 40 and 43, and fraps gives me 42 and 45... ... my cpu must be limiting the perf. increase of disabling specular... ... and why in the world does Particles get turned off in the timedemo? I have it enabled in halo's menu options... __________________ 2010-2011 Reviews: GTX 570 \| GTX 580 \| GTS 450 \| GTX 460 \| GTX 465 Pre-2010 Reviews: 6600 GT \| XMS 4400 DDR \| SilenX Cooler \| 6800 \| 5900 XT \| Personal Cinema \| 5900 NU ______________________________________________ Phenom II x6 1090t @ 4.0 ghz \| Asus M498TD-EVO Am3 SLI nForce 980a \| 2x EVGA GTX 560 SLI \| 2x4gb DDR3-1333 \| Antec EarthWatts EA650 PSU \| 60gb Mushkin Calisto Enhanced Sandforce SSD \| 2x WD2500KS RAID 0 \| Sunbeam Tuniq 3 case \| 24" Asus 19x10 LED LCD \| 26" Panasonic 720p TV \| Sidewinder X5 mouse \| Logitech MX5500 & Revolution mouse \| Altec Lansing 5.1 THX-Certified audio \| Win 7 Ultimate \| desk \| couch "Stars must die so that I may live. I... stepped out of a Supernova."

11-06-03, 08:45 AM	#4
digitalwanderer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 4,944	It sucks & it's silly! Why benchmark the cut-scenes? They ain't very representative of the games actual gameplay. __________________ [SIZE=1][I]"It was very important to us that NVIDIA did not know exactly where to aim. As a result they seem to have over-engineered in some aspects creating a power-hungry monster which is going to be very expensive for them to manufacture. We have a beautifully balanced piece of hardware that beats them on pure performance, cost, scalability, future mobile relevance, etc. That's all because they didn't know what to aim at." -R.Huddy[/I] [/SIZE]

11-18-03, 01:13 AM	#5
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11-06-03, 07:46 AM	#2
saturnotaku Apple user. Deal with it. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The 'burbs, IL USA Posts: 12,502	It does a good job in doing what it was designed to do. However, I don't like the way it interprets results. Fraps' measurements are more to my liking.