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Old 01-30-11, 08:45 AM   #1
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Default Palit 2GB GX560Ti's and NV Surround

Ordered two of these at newegg this weekend to check out if at $560 this is the new bang for buck champ at surround.

If 2GB 560Ti Sli will deliver playable framerates at 5760 X 1080 in Surround and 3d Vision Surround I'll be pretty impressed for a $580 grphics solution.

If my experiment fails, I'll move the 560s to my 25 X 16 rig where the the larger framebuffer should enable some high AA rates pretty effortlessly.
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Old 02-01-11, 10:51 PM   #2
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Default Re: Palit 2GB GX560Ti's and NV Surround

My old GTX 470's plays in surround.
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Old 02-01-11, 11:22 PM   #3
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Got the 2GB GTX560s installed and it's been a mixed bag so far.

On one hand, Just Cause 2, Mafia 2, UT2004,Left for Dead, and Batman AA played nicely at 5760 X 1080 0X16X in 3d Vision Surround.

Aliens Vs Predators played well at 5040X1050 in 3d. (for some reason it won't let me turn up the resolution past that, only thing I can figure out is the game sets the max your rig can display on installation. (because that's what I had when I installed)

Stalker COP hard locked my system, and HL2 played great at 5760X1080 0X16X, but was sloowwww at that in 3d Vision. Trying to add AA made it lock.

With 6 of 8 playing well on first try on my 3rd Sli set and second set of surround monitors since OS/games install I'm pretty happy with the GTX560s so far.
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Nice. Thanks for sharing your experience. Good to hear you're happy with the cards, although a pity Stalker and Half-life gave problems. Hopefully they can be solved in the future. It's amazing what 2 560 GTX's already can do.


How are the Palit cards themselves? After reading some reviews I ordered a Palit 560 Sonic Edition (Same price as stock model - discount) for a new system, but I was wondering how you feel about them. Are they relatively cool/silent?
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Nice feedback there Rollo!Keep it up.
On another note, whould you suggest 2x GTX560Ti over a GTX580?
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Nice feedback there Rollo!Keep it up.
On another note, whould you suggest 2x GTX560Ti over a GTX580?
Only for 3 panels, as the 580 can't run them.

For single panels I'd go with the 580 for many of the same reasons I'd go with a 580 over a 5970. Even though it's a little slower in some titles, you get more uniform fps and levels of performance across games. (with the 5970 you could throw in driver issues as well).

I think SLi is best for getting framerates and detail levels you can't with a single GPU, not getting high end single GPU level performance.
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Nice. Thanks for sharing your experience. Good to hear you're happy with the cards, although a pity Stalker and Half-life gave problems. Hopefully they can be solved in the future. It's amazing what 2 560 GTX's already can do.


How are the Palit cards themselves? After reading some reviews I ordered a Palit 560 Sonic Edition (Same price as stock model - discount) for a new system, but I was wondering how you feel about them. Are they relatively cool/silent?
They're quiet, I'll check the cool part out later today hopefully. I've got an app installed to track temps per GPU, just need to remember to do so.

I do like that dual 80mm fan cooler on them. It doesn't send all the heat our the back but in the case of these cards, I don't think it needs to.
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They're quiet, I'll check the cool part out later today hopefully. I've got an app installed to track temps per GPU, just need to remember to do so.

I do like that dual 80mm fan cooler on them. It doesn't send all the heat our the back but in the case of these cards, I don't think it needs to.

Thank you for your reply. I appreciate it.


Unfortunately the computershop couldn't deliver a Palit card on the last moment, they're now offering to replace it with a MSI 560 GTX Twin Frozr II instead. I have to let them know if I accept tomorrow at the latest.
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Thank you for your reply. I appreciate it.


Unfortunately the computershop couldn't deliver a Palit card on the last moment, they're now offering to replace it with a MSI 560 GTX Twin Frozr II instead. I have to let them know if I accept tomorrow at the latest.
On the cooling end, I can tell you I'd rather have that TwinFrozr for a HSF. I tried a 10% over stock overclock on the Palits, and it crashed on me.

Now that was after hours of 3d Surround gaming, and you likely won't be hammering on the GTX560(s) like I was, but I'd still take the stock OC on that MSI card over the 2GB on the Palit if I was gaming at 19X12 and below.

Other than failing the OC uber-torture test, the 2GB GTX560s continue to impress. Very playable at 57X10, and with 3d Vision possible as well, definitely my pick for "bang for buck" surround.

Bought DeadRising 2 (which is optimized for 3D Vision) yesterday, having some fun beating 3d zombies with guitars and wheelchairs.
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Compared to the 570's, overall faster, slower, in the middle performance?
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Compared to the 570's, overall faster, slower, in the middle performance?
The 570s are faster, but not enough so they're going back in. Going to sell the 570 I bought for $350, it's on the FS board now.

The hitching I encountered on some games and settings on the 570s and the research I've done into the subject since lead me to think 1.5GB is needed for 98% of gaming at 57X10, and 2GB+ is nice to have in isolated instances. If I ever buy a couple more 3007s, I'll only settle for 3GB cards.

I will say this as well- the 5870 "EyeFinity Editions" suffer from some false advertising. A single 5870 has nowhere near the stones to run three monitor, much less six. I wonder how many people bought one of them only to buy another? OTOH, as the 560s trump a 5970 by a much closer margin, that is a decent Eyefinity rig for three cards.

If I could get my young son off the Dead Rising 2 I could probably tell you more, but it appears he's having a lot of fun bashing zombies.
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The surround with 560 Sli worked out pretty well, but as anyone with 3d Vision Surround knows, you want as many fps as possible. (3d Vision cuts framerates in half due to rendering the image twice)

So I put the GTX480 SLi back in that rig and installed my two 2GB GTX560Ti cards in my Phenom II 965BE at stock 3.4GHz and ran a few benches.

On Far Cry 2, 25X16 4X16X Ultra Settings, I got 80ave/117max/52min with two 560s, and 56/78/43 with one. That's only 42% scaling, so I checked it again and got the same 80fps average. In the NVIDIA review guide they report 77% scaling with a 3.2GHz i7, so the AMD CPU is not pushing the 560s to their possible performance. (although it's not bad performance!)

On Metro 2033, at 25X16 AAA 16X, no physx, no DOF, High settings I recorded 48ave/148max/4min with 560 SLi, and 29/49/2 with a single 560. This is 65% scaling and the difference between playable and not- pretty good scaling and more in line with the review guide for these cards. I'd also note I never saw the framerate drop below 30 on the Sli runs, the 4fps must have been a momentary drop on 1-2 frames.
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