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Old 02-19-11, 02:02 PM   #25
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Default Re: PS3 firmware 3.56 allegedly includes rootkit

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No removing software would not be in violation. Like you stated they can revoke the license to use that software, which they can do by locking it or removing it. It's no different with Windows Validation system that can stop windows from operating at its full capabilities or randomly reboot.

Sony can argue that your license extends to the OS so disabling it to violators is there right. They are not stopping users from using the "hardware"... since thats something physical... they can make it still boot and just display a message that access to the PS3 OS has been revoked.
Yes, removing the software would be a violation. Take the car analogy, you buy a new car and decide to supercharge it, the car manufacturer says "no you can't do that" and erases the software on the car (they all are computer controlled these days), you now have a very expensive brick. Consoles should be considered in the same way, you bought what you bought, as such the only thing that Sony legally can do is block your access from PSN.

But don't get me wrong, I really really don't care either way.
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Old 02-19-11, 10:26 PM   #26
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Agreed so what Sony should do is if they know someone is running a hacked unit is remove the OS and all the software from the PS3. Just erase the bios... no hardware is modified, they just lose all software rights, no games, no bluray, no PS3 OS.
You are modifying/changing hardware (which is the BIOS chip) so no. It also will have to be in usable condition, so if the OS were to be erased, they at least HAVE to allow it to use the old linux (before they decided to zap that too).
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Old 02-20-11, 10:46 AM   #27
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No removing software would not be in violation. Like you stated they can revoke the license to use that software, which they can do by locking it or removing it. It's no different with Windows Validation system that can stop windows from operating at its full capabilities or randomly reboot.

Sony can argue that your license extends to the OS so disabling it to violators is there right. They are not stopping users from using the "hardware"... since thats something physical... they can make it still boot and just display a message that access to the PS3 OS has been revoked.
Disabling the software is completely different from erasing it from the bios. The reason MS disables features when WGA fails but does NOT delete the software from the HD is because they legally cannot do it. Erasing the software, in this case the bios, is modifying the hardware. It could also be considered modifying the hardware in the case of erasing parts or all of the bits stored on a HD. There is a reason why those 30 day trial software and demos don't auto uninstall themselves but just disables themselves or their features. Once the license to use is terminated, then the software loses the right to modify the hardware. This includes the ability to erase itself.
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