Apple says "f*ck you" to iphone 3g owners - Page 4

**crainger** · 03-14-11, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by six_storm

So if Microsoft makes Windows Movie Maker, why is it that they don't include it with a PC? I'm just asking, I have no idea why they don't include it like they did with XP. Just curious. I find it surprising that they can't include their own software.

The "junk" that comes with OS X (iMovie, Garageband, etc) is actually pretty awesome software; way better than Microsoft's offering IMO.

They don't include it because countries make up laws just for MS saying it's illegal. They then get a fine of some ungodly amount. Apple can look forward to that if their phones keep getting more popular.

**bacon12** · 03-14-11, 08:11 PM

Never used iMovie but that Apple software isn't free is it? Windows live movie maker is a nice free tool.

**Rakeesh** · 03-14-11, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by snowmanwithahat

It wasn't settled for a while.... Originally they said that any app that replicated the functionality of an already provisioned Apple app would not be allowed to compete, browsers, music players, stuff like that....

Yeah that's how I remembered it.

**crainger** · 03-14-11, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bacon12

Never used iMovie but that Apple software isn't free is it? Windows live movie maker is a nice free tool.

I think it's free except for major updates no?

six_storm · 03-14-11, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bacon12

Never used iMovie but that Apple software isn't free is it? Windows live movie maker is a nice free tool.

The iLife suite comes with any new Mac, but if you want to upgrade to the newest version, you do have to pay for it. Honestly, I don't know why anyone would want to pay for an upgrade every year, it's basically small additions and add-ons TBH. You are better off just sticking with it and get the new version when you get a new Mac.

As for MS, can't anybody just download the Movie Maker app or is that "illegal" too? Very interesting.

**bacon12** · 03-14-11, 08:54 PM

The entire live suit is free, install one or them all.
http://explore.live.com/windows-live...maker?os=other

**crainger** · 03-14-11, 09:23 PM

I think you aren't getting what we are trying to say. MS cannot bundle some apps due to anti monopoly laws. It's free and legal to have them available online free. They are silly laws as Apple can bundle and restrict what they wish. Yet MS has always allowed 3rd party installs and more. Don't get me wrong. I love my iPhone 4 it's a great bit of gear. It's just frustrating to see the way Apple can do one thing while MS gets strung up.

**nekrosoft13** · 03-14-11, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by six_storm

The iLife suite comes with any new Mac, but if you want to upgrade to the newest version, you do have to pay for it. Honestly, I don't know why anyone would want to pay for an upgrade every year, it's basically small additions and add-ons TBH. You are better off just sticking with it and get the new version when you get a new Mac.

As for MS, can't anybody just download the Movie Maker app or is that "illegal" too? Very interesting.

whats so hard to understand? when MS bundles their own software in their own OS they get sued. don't you remember the media player case? then then IE?

Apple should be treated the same way

**crainger** · 03-14-11, 09:45 PM

Exactly but the laws seem to target MS specifically.

03-14-11, 10:27 PM

I thought iMovie came with the new ipad2 already but I couldn't find it anywhere on it. I went to the app store and found it... for $4.99

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/imovie/id377298193?mt=8
I think it should be free like Microsoft's Movie Maker software.

**crainger** · 03-14-11, 10:32 PM

Yeah. Why bundle so much then charge for something like iMovie? Licensing fees? Then again Apple has their own Quicktimes.

03-14-11, 10:53 PM

They even charge you for that Garageband thing. Who would pay for something like that?

03-14-11, 08:11 PM	#38
bacon12 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,536	*Re: Apple says "fck you" to iphone 3g owners** Never used iMovie but that Apple software isn't free is it? Windows live movie maker is a nice free tool.

03-14-11, 08:54 PM	#42
bacon12 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,536	*Re: Apple says "fck you" to iphone 3g owners** The entire live suit is free, install one or them all. http://explore.live.com/windows-live...maker?os=other

03-14-11, 10:27 PM	#46
betterdan Guest Posts: n/a	*Re: Apple says "fck you" to iphone 3g owners** I thought iMovie came with the new ipad2 already but I couldn't find it anywhere on it. I went to the app store and found it... for $4.99 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/imovie/id377298193?mt=8 I think it should be free like Microsoft's Movie Maker software.

03-14-11, 10:53 PM	#48
betterdan Guest Posts: n/a	*Re: Apple says "fck you" to iphone 3g owners** They even charge you for that Garageband thing. Who would pay for something like that?

03-14-11, 09:23 PM	#43
crainger Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Coffs Harbour, NSW, Australia Posts: 29,535	I think you aren't getting what we are trying to say. MS cannot bundle some apps due to anti monopoly laws. It's free and legal to have them available online free. They are silly laws as Apple can bundle and restrict what they wish. Yet MS has always allowed 3rd party installs and more. Don't get me wrong. I love my iPhone 4 it's a great bit of gear. It's just frustrating to see the way Apple can do one thing while MS gets strung up.

03-14-11, 09:45 PM	#45
crainger Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Coffs Harbour, NSW, Australia Posts: 29,535	Exactly but the laws seem to target MS specifically.

03-14-11, 10:32 PM	#47
crainger Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Coffs Harbour, NSW, Australia Posts: 29,535	Yeah. Why bundle so much then charge for something like iMovie? Licensing fees? Then again Apple has their own Quicktimes.