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Old 03-21-11, 04:10 AM   #1
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Old 03-21-11, 08:57 AM   #2
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A true duopoly (from Greek dyo / δυο (two) + polein / πωλειν (to sell)) is a specific type of oligopoly where only two producers exist in one market.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duopoly

I'm not even going to click the link since it's BSON. Pretty sure that AT&T combining with T mobile doesn't make a duopoly for the phone market....
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Old 03-21-11, 11:45 AM   #3
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It's not very far though.
Sure, you have smaller, local carrier (MetroPCS, boostMobile...), but there only was 3 major wireless carriers: 1) Verizon, 2) ATT, 3)TMobile
Now, number 2 and 3 are merging, creating a new power house, so, you only have 2.
Most of the smaller networks actually lease their access to one of the big 3, so it IS a network duopoly.
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Old 03-21-11, 01:24 PM   #4
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Tmobile was number 4 according to another thing I read. So #3 would most likely be Sprint. Not exactly sure how they compare for total subscribers though...
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Old 03-21-11, 01:51 PM   #5
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not sure if i like this

in last i always used either ATT or T-mobile because those two use GSM phones, now in future I will have zero choice. no chance in hell i'm going to verizon.
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Old 03-21-11, 02:36 PM   #6
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not sure if i like this

in last i always used either ATT or T-mobile because those two use GSM phones, now in future I will have zero choice. no chance in hell i'm going to verizon.
Why? Verizon is moving to LTE, which is better than GSM and CDMA...

AT&T is moving to LTE as well, along with almost every other carrier worldwide.
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Old 03-21-11, 02:46 PM   #7
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I need GSM since i travel to Europe, not all verizon phones have hidden GSM network support.

all networks are not "switching" to LTE they are adding LTE slowly. ATT phone with LTE still will use GSM, since entire nation will not have LTE coverage for many years to come, same with Europe.
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Old 03-21-11, 02:51 PM   #8
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Simple solution is to not travel to Europe. To many weirdos there anyway.
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Old 03-21-11, 03:52 PM   #9
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I need GSM since i travel to Europe, not all verizon phones have hidden GSM network support.

all networks are not "switching" to LTE they are adding LTE slowly. ATT phone with LTE still will use GSM, since entire nation will not have LTE coverage for many years to come, same with Europe.
Well given the size of the infrastructure, of course they're not switching over night.

Phasing in LTE and phasing out GSM/CDMA was implied. Your "many years" prediction may be true for the entire country, but for major cities, LTE networks are already popping up.

Verizon launched back in December for 39 major cities, including Chicago.

http://news.vzw.com/news/2010/10/pr2010-10-01c.html

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Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Initial Major Metropolitan Area Deployment
Akron, Ohio
Athens, Georgia
Atlanta, Georgia
Baltimore, Maryland
Boston, Massachusetts
Charlotte, North Carolina
Chicago, Illinois
Cincinnati, Ohio
Cleveland, Ohio
Columbus, Ohio
Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex, Dallas, Texas
Denver, Colorado
Fort Lauderdale, Florida
Houston, Texas
Jacksonville, Florida
Las Vegas, Nevada
Los Angeles, California
Miami, Florida
Minneapolis/Saint Paul, Minnesota
Nashville, Tennessee
New Orleans, Louisiana
New York, New York
Oakland, California
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Orlando, Florida
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Phoenix, Arizona
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Rochester, New York
San Antonio, Texas
San Diego, California
San Francisco, California
San Jose, California
Seattle/Tacoma, Washington
St. Louis, Missouri
Tampa, Florida
Washington, D.C.
West Lafayette, Indiana
West Palm Beach, Florida
IIRC there is at least 1 LTE phone available, with more coming mid-2011.
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Old 03-21-11, 05:18 PM   #10
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Simple solution is to not travel to Europe. To many weirdos there anyway.
Add California to that statement also
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Old 03-22-11, 10:58 AM   #11
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Misleading headline is misleading.


Unless my math is really bad (it sometimes is) I'm counting 3 major carriers. Lets see.

1. Verizon
2. Sprint
3. AT&T


yeah, thats 3 carriers, that's not a duopoloy.

FWIW almost all the smaller carriers (Boost and etc) rent from Sprint. Sprint does a helluva lot of business this way.
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