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Old 04-10-11, 12:13 AM   #25
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Not comitting to it as I've far more important things to put my money towards.

However, if finances allow it then this will be my next upgrade.
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Old 04-10-11, 09:35 AM   #26
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The latest rumors didn't mention a 8 Core desktop CPU. Just up to 6 cores. That would be very disappointing.
The same slides also showed entry level versions as well, starting at the 2600K price point.
Yeah, I saw the slides...crap!

Seriously, I've been saving for 10 years for the day when I could be the absolute highest end PC possible, and was really hoping that SNB-E would be the way to go, with 8 cores/16 threads.

The 2011 Xeons probably have 8 cores...I'll just get one or two of those

Or, more likely, I'll let my obscene computer-life-savings burn a hole in my pocket until Ivy-Bridge E.
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Old 04-10-11, 09:41 AM   #27
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Confirmed: Sandy Bridge EP chips WILL have up to 8 cores.

http://download.intel.com/products/roadmap/roadmap.pdf

Maybe this is just Intel *finally* making the Xeons worth buying over the EE chips? If so...sweet.
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Old 04-10-11, 10:25 AM   #28
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I'd bet on a single socket 8 core chip since Intel does it with the current xeons (3690 maps to 5690, for example). Also, I'm sure that a motherboard maker knows there's demand for some hot 8-core Sandy Bridge EP action with SLI/XFire capabilities, so we'll see that too.

Don't worry slaWter, we'll get out 8 core SNB-E fix
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Old 04-27-11, 09:53 AM   #29
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slaWter, I'm actually inclined to agree with you. I honestly expected 8 core EE CPUs. My worry is that while there will be 8 core Xeons, they will likely be clock-nerfed...significantly.

I think I'll just keep saving my money until my current rig is too slow -- then go for a monster upgrade in a few years (maybe dual 10 core CPUs? XD)
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Old 04-27-11, 08:31 PM   #30
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Any dual socket Xeon will be clocked a lot lower than single socket counterparts, so you are right; having a 8-core Xeon is not good enough and will be terribly overpriced as a desktop solution considering the single socket performance.

Latest roadmap IIRC:


If the above is true, then we'll be waiting until 2H 2012 for the high end Ivy Bridge chips to bring 8 cores to EE.
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Old 04-28-11, 01:16 AM   #31
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What do you guys think you need 8 cores for? Last I checked, no games even took advantage of even 6 cores... Unless its for encoding and other uses, in which case theres dual chip mobos and other better options.
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Old 04-28-11, 02:08 AM   #32
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Any dual socket Xeon will be clocked a lot lower than single socket counterparts, so you are right; having a 8-core Xeon is not good enough and will be terribly overpriced as a desktop solution considering the single socket performance.

Latest roadmap IIRC:


If the above is true, then we'll be waiting until 2H 2012 for the high end Ivy Bridge chips to bring 8 cores to EE.
imo this is kinda' good news, at least for me.

I was really hoping to be able to save enough this year to buy my truck (cash) and have some left over to upgrade my rig. Not looking so likely now.

So this will give me the luxury of forgoing any upgrade to my rig this year, and just devoting all my funds to the truck. Next year, when the proper high end stuff is out, I'll make my upgrade then. Should be quite the substantial jump in performance as well as pretty awesome new feature. Not only that, DDR3 RAM will likely be much cheaper so it'll be easier for me to purchase as much as I'm hoping to.
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Old 04-28-11, 02:19 PM   #33
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Hence why i made the jump to the EVGA SR-2 and 2 Xeon X5650's now running at 4 Ghz even(12 cores and 24 threads), with 6 memory channels between both sockets, using corsair dominator GT DDR 3 2000 memory, and full numa support and Quad crossfire/Quad SLI support using 4 video cards ....It just won't get much better than this for the forseable future....It's expensive and uses a custom form factor(HPTX), but it's the sledgehammer aproach basically...



I'm good for years until platforms come out that are at least 50% faster than this thing, so the only thing i can imagine upgrading are the video cards, as we have the 28nm generation to look forward too in 6 months or so, and i'm expecting GPU's twice as fast as the current ones, so it's a performance increase that's hard to ignore...
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Old 04-28-11, 08:18 PM   #34
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You're still in the same boat though. CPU-wise you're set. But what about native SATA 3.0, USB 3.0, PCIe 3.0 and Thunderbolt?
In fact, those features are more important to me than a 8 Core SNB-E for the Desktop

Well, as far as sata 3.0 is concerned, the board does have a 3rd party sata 3.0 controler(marvell i think) wich i'm using a pair of intel 510 SSD's in raid 0 with it, so the new X79 chipset will have more sata 3.0 ports most likely, but i only need 2 ports anyhow...


As for USB 3.0, i don't really use any external devices that would make use of it's extra bandwith over USB 2.0, and if those cases present themselves,i also have E Sata ports available for it anyhow...


So it leaves PCI-e 3.0 as the distinguishing feature here and i like that intel will integrate that into the CPU die as it'll reduce latency issues over the current implementation, but if the transistion from PCI-e 1.0 to 2.0 was any indication many years ago, the performance increase is pretty much non existant unless the software is specifically created to make use of it, and given how software is lagging behind these days with game developers still wanting to make their games run on outdated consoles up until 2014(that's when the X360 and PS3 will be replaced), i'm not holding my breath on that one...



I'm not in denial that there won't eventually be faster systems than my setup as time goes on, since technology is always evolving, but until that happends and even more so when software can make this current setup actually struggle at anything, well let's say several years have already passed once that point has been reached, so it's nothing i'm worried about right now to say the least...
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Old 04-29-11, 12:04 PM   #35
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That's why I wrote native. Those PCIe based third party controllers are usually on up to the task. Especially now with even faster SSDs.

But if you're happy with that solution, that's cool.

If it works, it doesn't really matter the brand really, and besides the Intel 510 SSD's wich are the fastest SSD's intel currently makes, use marvell controlers in them, so if Intel is happy with using those, that alone should satisfy anyone right there...


The only drives faster than these are the OCZ vertex 3's, wich weren't available when i put this system together about a month ago, but 900 MB/sec sustained read and 700 MB/sec sustained writes isn't too shabby either for the 510's in raid 0...
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I'm really not a fan of intel's weird market segmentation. Might actually just go with an 8-core BD, since I'm just so tired of waiting...
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