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Old 06-29-11, 03:26 PM   #61
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I apologize. I know you guys are a part of the works too in terms of what we use, computers. I was just frustrated by other elements in my life and vented. Like I said again, I apologize, seriously. If I really had the money, I would have got a sr-2 mb with 2 6 core xeons and 48gb of ddr-3 ram. But two 6 high end core xeons are almost double a 990x in price each. Hence why I am more understanding of your cause in being gouged. Now I ask, has anyone ever done a quad or 4 way sli scaling review of the evga sr-2 mb? That I would like to see just to see where thing lie in terms of scaling there.
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Old 06-29-11, 03:47 PM   #62
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Now I ask, has anyone ever done a quad or 4 way sli scaling review of the evga sr-2 mb? That I would like to see just to see where thing lie in terms of scaling there.
Quad means 4...

Anyways, it sucks.
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Old 06-29-11, 04:23 PM   #63
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No, Quad is 2 Dual-GPU cards and 4-way is 4 Single-GPU cards. Scaling and support is different.
It's still 4 gpus all sli'd together... Link to benchmarks that show it's different?
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Old 06-29-11, 04:34 PM   #64
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Found this. http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=925437&mpage=1

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FARCRY 2 DX10
GTX 580 3-Way SLI 2560X1600 = 156
GTX 590 Quad SLI 2560X1600 = 145
GTX 580 2-Way SLI 2560X1600 = 129
GTX 590 Single SLI 2560X1600 = 105
GTX 580 3-Way SLI 1920X1200 = 165
GTX 590 Quad SLI 1920X1200 = 161
GTX 580 2-Way SLI 1920X1200 = 164
GTX 590 Single SLI 1920X1200 = 142

Crysis Warhead DX10
GTX 580 3-Way SLI 2560X1600 = 81
GTX 590 Quad SLI 2560X1600 = 80
GTX 580 2-Way SLI 2560X1600 = 70
GTX 590 Single SLI 2560X1600 = 59
GTX 580 3-Way SLI 1920X1200 = 89
GTX 590 Quad SLI 1920X1200 = 86
GTX 580 2-Way SLI 1920X1200 = 90
GTX 590 Single SLI 1920X1200 = 83

METRO 2033 DX11
GTX 580 3-Way SLI 2560X1600 = 56
GTX 590 Quad SLI 2560X1600 = 62
GTX 580 2-Way SLI 2560X1600 = 39
GTX 590 Single SLI 2560X1600 = 32
GTX 580 3-Way SLI 1920X1200 = 91
GTX 590 Quad SLI 1920X1200 = 84
GTX 580 2-Way SLI 1920X1200 = 65
GTX 590 Single SLI 1920X1200 =54

COLIN McRAE DIRT 2 DX11
GTX 580 3-Way SLI 2560X1600 = 138
GTX 590 Quad SLI 2560X1600 = 155
GTX 580 2-Way SLI 2560X1600 = 119
GTX 590 Single SLI 2560X1600 = 104
GTX 580 3-Way SLI 1920X1200 = 143
GTX 590 Quad SLI 1920X1200 = 155
GTX 580 2-Way SLI 1920X1200 = 149
GTX 590 Single SLI 1920X1200 = 143

BATTLEFIELD BAD COMPANY 2 DX11
GTX 580 3-Way SLI 2560X1600 = 116
GTX 590 Quad SLI 2560X1600 = 120
GTX 580 2-Way SLI 2560X1600 = 86
GTX 590 Single SLI 2560X1600 = 70
GTX 580 3-Way SLI 1920X1200 = 140
GTX 590 Quad SLI 1920X1200 = 154
GTX 580 2-Way SLI 1920X1200 = 108
GTX 590 Single SLI 1920X1200 = 106
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Old 06-29-11, 10:48 PM   #65
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Wheeljack-
Remember my 59% scaling (49fps>>78fps) with the 3.4GHz Phenom II on FC2?

Dropped in the 2500K motherboard last night, got 88% scaling just like Guru3d. (49fps>>92fps)
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Old 06-30-11, 03:01 AM   #66
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rollo, I get your point. But your not changing my mind away from Bulldozer. Back a few years ago when i7 1st came out, I would have had the money to part out on a dime. Now I have to pick and choose my parts. IYO, I chose wrong in AMD. Here's a question for you, why would Nvidia lisense their SLI tech to AMD motherboard partners if they didn't see as profitable? Your the pro NV guy here preaching almost every day, answer that one. And no it not because NV doesn't want to make chipsets because everyone knows that. do they want to shoot themselves in the foot by killing sli scaling and turning half of their potential profits away from AMD users choices? Or maybe, just maybe they chose the 900 series because they have seen potential in Bulldozer through eng samples to know that their vid cards will perform well,HMM? What I am getting at is don't count something out until it has proven otherwise. I am looking forward to Bulldozer as my pc future and I don't need someone giving me the here and now perspective of what I should do. BTW, I can live with 59% scaling for now.
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Old 06-30-11, 07:17 AM   #67
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rollo, I get your point. But your not changing my mind away from Bulldozer. Back a few years ago when i7 1st came out, I would have had the money to part out on a dime. Now I have to pick and choose my parts. IYO, I chose wrong in AMD. Here's a question for you, why would Nvidia lisense their SLI tech to AMD motherboard partners if they didn't see as profitable? Your the pro NV guy here preaching almost every day, answer that one. And no it not because NV doesn't want to make chipsets because everyone knows that. do they want to shoot themselves in the foot by killing sli scaling and turning half of their potential profits away from AMD users choices? Or maybe, just maybe they chose the 900 series because they have seen potential in Bulldozer through eng samples to know that their vid cards will perform well,HMM? What I am getting at is don't count something out until it has proven otherwise. I am looking forward to Bulldozer as my pc future and I don't need someone giving me the here and now perspective of what I should do. BTW, I can live with 59% scaling for now.
I'm not trying to change your mind on bulldozer, because I don't know anything about Bulldozer. I'm just showing you why I said earlier current gen AMD cpus can affect the amount of scaling a user can expect.

FarCry2 is a non typical result because it favors Intel cpus, but it's not the only game like this.

AMD has never been half of the motherboard market, or even close, but I'm glad to see SLi back in AMD motherboards.

For you in particular, as a then potential quad SLi user and now quad SLi user, I stand by my advice that a $315 2600K with a good HSF is the only responsible recommendation at present based on what I've seen in reviews and experienced personally. Bulldozer may change that, but it's not here yet.
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Old 07-01-11, 04:27 PM   #68
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I'm not trying to change your mind on bulldozer, because I don't know anything about Bulldozer. I'm just showing you why I said earlier current gen AMD cpus can affect the amount of scaling a user can expect.

FarCry2 is a non typical result because it favors Intel cpus, but it's not the only game like this.

AMD has never been half of the motherboard market, or even close, but I'm glad to see SLi back in AMD motherboards.

For you in particular, as a then potential quad SLi user and now quad SLi user, I stand by my advice that a $315 2600K with a good HSF is the only responsible recommendation at present based on what I've seen in reviews and experienced personally. Bulldozer may change that, but it's not here yet.

then let Bulldozer come and see what happens. If it sucks real bad, then I will switch to snb since snb-e is now pushed back to Jan. 2012. (I left a thread in cpu's and mb area)
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