Microsoft BUILD - Windows 8 Unveiling - Page 7

Sean_W · 09-16-11, 05:22 PM

So basically Microsoft have done an Apple like they did on their iphone and iPad. LOL, this just keeps getting better and better.

After supporting the plugin mess and even creating their own media plugins, they drop them all together in the metro UI.

**bacon12** · 09-16-11, 05:25 PM

It was the right decision when you consider battery life, and security/stability. Plus it will also make the transition to html 5 go so much faster. Which needs to happen.

Silverlight was to be a more secure option to flash for MS, and it is. For protected streams it seems there is still an issue though, and no way to use HTML 5.

ElL33t · 09-16-11, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bacon12

Yes its actually an application for each UI. Metro or classic desktop. Run either or both.

I think performance increases will make this a worthy upgrade, but we will have to see once it gets out of development. We have heard news of being able to play xbox games nativity as well, but who knows how that will work out.

Hopefully there are lots of goodies that will be in 8 that will make us want to upgrade. You babies can whine till the sun don't shine about metro on DT. No one is making you use it including MS. So beat that drum till you go deaf no one is listening.

You really should learn about the platform before you speak foolishly.

Also wanted to add that MS confirmed no flash on Metro IE10 yesterday. Yes there will be two IE10's one for DT and one for Metro.

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/new...sh-plugins.ars

I didn't think what I said was foolish at all. I was just saying what I experienced. It felt like one UI with a expanded start menu.

Sean_W · 09-16-11, 05:38 PM

No, you just sandbox it like Chrome does. Since when has Microsoft been bothered about third party software with security issues? Apple and Microsoft have had more security issues with their own OS and software than Adobe Flash could ever have and as for battery life, meh, at least Android devices have the option to use Flash.

**bacon12** · 09-16-11, 05:44 PM

Again commenting without knowing ftw you are talking about makes you look stoopid... Read the linked article and then comment.

You can still view flash/silverlight content, but you can not do it inside metro. You will be dropped into classic dt to do so.

Also are you kidding about flash security? The difference between a native exploit and a 3rd party one are gigantic. One you can patch asap the other has to be done by the 3rd party.

Sean_W · 09-16-11, 06:02 PM

I was on about the metro UI, dropping back to the classic desktop isn't the point, especially if you're on a tablet.

LOL, since when did Microsoft or Apple patch ASAP? They didnt' fix security holes for ages and don't disclose them. Adobe actually ship updates to Flash anyway now days via their update system.

**bacon12** · 09-16-11, 06:04 PM

Right... MS is teh suxors when it comes to patches. You are now starting to sound like a linux zealot. Have fun with that..

Sean_W · 09-16-11, 06:16 PM

Who's changing the context of the conversation now to suit their needs? The best you can come up with is to try and take the Linux high ground to defend my view of Microsoft. Funny isn't it because you guys are the ones who started it, not me. Try and learn to have a proper conversation because it's pretty sad to watch you sink to this level.

Conversation over.......

ElL33t · 09-16-11, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean_W

Who's changing the context of the conversation now to suit their needs? The best you can come up with is to try and take the Linux high ground to defend my view of Microsoft. Funny isn't it because you guys are the ones who started it, not me. Try and learn to have a proper conversation because it's pretty sad to watch you sink to this level.

Conversation over.......

Thank God!

Sean_W · 09-16-11, 06:39 PM

Yeah, should have stopped a few pages back because of the trolls but god had nothing to do with it I assure you.

**bacon12** · 09-16-11, 06:48 PM

Yes we Windows fans came to a Windows thread to troll you. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

mojoman0 · 09-16-11, 07:06 PM

Photos, Mail, People, Calendar, and Messaging Metro app demos

09-16-11, 05:22 PM	#73
Sean_W Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,438	Re: Microsoft BUILD - Windows 8 Unveiling So basically Microsoft have done an Apple like they did on their iphone and iPad. LOL, this just keeps getting better and better. After supporting the plugin mess and even creating their own media plugins, they drop them all together in the metro UI.

09-16-11, 05:25 PM	#74
bacon12 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,536	Re: Microsoft BUILD - Windows 8 Unveiling It was the right decision when you consider battery life, and security/stability. Plus it will also make the transition to html 5 go so much faster. Which needs to happen. Silverlight was to be a more secure option to flash for MS, and it is. For protected streams it seems there is still an issue though, and no way to use HTML 5.

09-16-11, 05:38 PM	#76
Sean_W Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,438	Re: Microsoft BUILD - Windows 8 Unveiling No, you just sandbox it like Chrome does. Since when has Microsoft been bothered about third party software with security issues? Apple and Microsoft have had more security issues with their own OS and software than Adobe Flash could ever have and as for battery life, meh, at least Android devices have the option to use Flash.

09-16-11, 05:44 PM	#77
bacon12 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,536	Re: Microsoft BUILD - Windows 8 Unveiling Again commenting without knowing ftw you are talking about makes you look stoopid... Read the linked article and then comment. You can still view flash/silverlight content, but you can not do it inside metro. You will be dropped into classic dt to do so. Also are you kidding about flash security? The difference between a native exploit and a 3rd party one are gigantic. One you can patch asap the other has to be done by the 3rd party.

09-16-11, 06:02 PM	#78
Sean_W Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,438	Re: Microsoft BUILD - Windows 8 Unveiling I was on about the metro UI, dropping back to the classic desktop isn't the point, especially if you're on a tablet. LOL, since when did Microsoft or Apple patch ASAP? They didnt' fix security holes for ages and don't disclose them. Adobe actually ship updates to Flash anyway now days via their update system.

09-16-11, 06:04 PM	#79
bacon12 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,536	Re: Microsoft BUILD - Windows 8 Unveiling Right... MS is teh suxors when it comes to patches. You are now starting to sound like a linux zealot. Have fun with that..

09-16-11, 06:16 PM	#80
Sean_W Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,438	Re: Microsoft BUILD - Windows 8 Unveiling Who's changing the context of the conversation now to suit their needs? The best you can come up with is to try and take the Linux high ground to defend my view of Microsoft. Funny isn't it because you guys are the ones who started it, not me. Try and learn to have a proper conversation because it's pretty sad to watch you sink to this level. Conversation over.......

09-16-11, 06:39 PM	#82
Sean_W Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,438	Re: Microsoft BUILD - Windows 8 Unveiling Yeah, should have stopped a few pages back because of the trolls but god had nothing to do with it I assure you.

09-16-11, 06:48 PM	#83
bacon12 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,536	Re: Microsoft BUILD - Windows 8 Unveiling Yes we Windows fans came to a Windows thread to troll you. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

09-16-11, 07:06 PM	#84
mojoman0 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: California Posts: 3,566	Re: Microsoft BUILD - Windows 8 Unveiling Photos, Mail, People, Calendar, and Messaging Metro app demos