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Old 10-02-11, 10:47 AM   #37
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Default Re: 285.03: X Server 1.11.0 IgnoreABI required to work

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There is already one: 275.28
The official stable is listed as 280.13. The 275.28 driver you're talking about is listed as "long-lived branch release", whatever that's supposed to mean.
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Old 10-02-11, 12:50 PM   #38
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I wouldn't call that realy a fix, since there are massive slowdowns and high cpu usage in x with this driver and xserver 1.11.x.
I'm seeing the same thing. It's pretty terrible.
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Old 10-03-11, 07:18 PM   #39
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I'm seeing the same thing. It's pretty terrible.
I am seeing them too as I used my old Debian box more over the weekend. Is there a fix for this at all?
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Old 10-04-11, 04:01 PM   #40
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I wouldn't call that realy a fix, since there are massive slowdowns and high cpu usage in x with this driver and xserver 1.11.x.
I just upgraded the latest 285 driver from Debian and to the 1.11.x base and the CPU is pegging at 100% whether it's Google Chrome 16.0.899.0 dev or Iceweasel 7.0.1.

Xorg and the browser are swapping back and forth for the CPU and Xorg routinely hits 100% and a single view in Chrome jumps over 50%.

This is pathetic.

What's worse is that Debian has moved Xorg prior release to it's backports section. They've moved to 1.11.1 like it's some sweet release and Nvidia clearly has a poorly tested and optimized driver.
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Old 10-04-11, 04:52 PM   #41
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Are you using oxygen-gtk? If yes, try to disable it.
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Old 10-05-11, 05:58 PM   #42
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Fortunately, I was aware of these issues before they occurred, so I kept nVidia 280.13 and Xorg X server 1.10.4 on my Debian Wheezy with GNOME 3.0.2. However, I have also a KDebian Wheezy on another partition, where I tested nVidia 285.05.09 with Xorg X server 1.11.1. The result was terrible: high CPU usage of Xorg and bad slowdowns. IgnoreABI didn't have any effect. Now, my KDE desktop isn't usable at all.

Therefore, for now, the real solution is just nVidia 280.13 and Xorg 1.10.4.
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Old 10-09-11, 02:40 PM   #43
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Default Re: 285.03: X Server 1.11.0 IgnoreABI required to work

I have had installed every latest driver just as from Debian/testing repo just so from official Nvidia download server. 275.28, 280.13, latest beta.
No one of them resolves the problem with a slow interface responce. I have understood that something was broken in latest Xorg and that made the driver like there is no acceleration at all.
May I assume that need fix of that is obvious?
Nouveau isn't the case because the permanently full-throttled fan in a notebook is really bad.
Thinking of double-posting into http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=166698 but hope it's enough to stay it here.

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Old 10-09-11, 05:29 PM   #44
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May I assume that need fix of that is obvious?
One possible fix is here: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...8&postcount=15
Nvidia might solve it differently, but until a decision on a final solution is made, you can use the patch form that post to make things work. Or you downgrade X.
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Old 10-09-11, 05:59 PM   #45
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One possible fix is here: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...8&postcount=15
Nvidia might solve it differently, but until a decision on a final solution is made, you can use the patch form that post to make things work. Or you downgrade X.
How does one use the patch or downgrade in Debian? I used its provided packages through apt-get commands.
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Old 10-10-11, 05:48 AM   #46
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How does one use the patch or downgrade in Debian? I used its provided packages through apt-get commands.
Assuming you're on Debian Sid...
0. find the package you want to patch in here , download the orig.tar.gz file and extract it
1. open a terminal, cd /path/to/package_directory
2. patch -p1 < /path/to/patch/file
3. install what's needed to compile the package: sudo apt-get build-dep package_name
4. compile it (usually ./configure && make)
5. make a deb package out of it, then install: sudo checkinstall make install
NOTE: checkinstall has an interactive menu, so you may want to give the package you just made the same name and version of the one you want to replace, so apt-get upgrade won't try to replace it with the unpatched version, but it will still upgrade it to a newer version when it'll be avaible

If you simply want to downgrade a package, either look for an older version via apt/synaptic, or manually download the deb packages and install them (they'll replace the newer ones)

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Old 10-10-11, 06:29 AM   #47
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What is the situation with ATI cards and drivers? It seemed for a long time like the linux support could become better than NVIDIA's but it never did.
I am using NVIDIA only for 10 years or so but the current support annoys me. There is no support for high res text terminals or good switching from 11 to vt and back.
And now the only reason for picking NVIDIA "working x11 driver - no matter what" is not valid anymore.

Are there alternatives? By now it would not take much to make me switch vendors.
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Old 10-10-11, 06:57 AM   #48
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Default Re: 285.03: X Server 1.11.0 IgnoreABI required to work

Thank you, Soulsuke, for the comprehensive answer.

Some time ago I've had rebuilt conky in Debian. It has pretty user-friendly building system for package's sources. Unfortunately, I forgot what I did but there is Wiki.

Hope, it will not take too long time to cure this disaster, especially because Nvidia's members are here and are in the know.
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