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Sucks. Will probably be fine in the server space, which I think must be their plan now, BD for server, Fusion products for the majority of desktop. I wonder if piledriver in 6-8 months will actually fix anything, sounds like its more the way it is designed than anything, it just doesn't fit well with desktop duties. Maybe when 8 threads becomes common for everything, but I think thats a few years off yet.
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What a letdown.
Was ready to push the button and upgrading from my X6. Not now ![]() CRAP"! |
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Technically "I" wasn't right, I just ran across an interview of an unnamed AMD employee that turned out to be true and I believed it was while most did not. In any case, this is a sad day for competition in the cpu market. Who could have guessed Bulldozer would be this bad?
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wow, what a disaster, and i wanted to get one in hopes for better x264 encoding over by X6, but there is no point in waiting money on new AM3+ board and ****dozer.
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Let's not forget that it's a cheaper upgrade for current AMD owners and nothing really utilises it yet.
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The dreaded TLB bug is back has no one noticed?
How is bulldozer sopost to feed the L3 cache when the L2 cache is running at slower speeds then the Memory subsystem and the L3 cache is twice as fast? And the fact it is writing faster then reading!!! The L2 cache is running 8x slower then Intels. I wonder if disabling the L2 cache will help after all the L3 cache is running 2x as fast If you compair it to my Phenom X6 the L2 cache is 2x slower then my CPU. ![]()
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Man, this is embarrassing for AMD...
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I don't know why that guy in the link in the quote above uses high graphics settings for his CPU benchmarks... |
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I'd have to agree the loss of clock for clock performance is a bit of a mystery. There are some workloads where bulldozer does do quite well and can almost match a i7 2600K, but it's still going to be doing it with a lot more power consumption. I'd bet my OC'ed 2600K still uses less power and would really blow away bulldozer.
I'm guessing bulldozer will be quick to fade. It's priced higher than an X6 1100T yet performs on par in light workloads. A slight price drop of Sandy Bridge will no doubt make it even less compelling to buy anything AMD. Pile driver has it's work cut out for it to even get the numbers back on track. The per clock increase will only get it back on track with Phenom II, then they will really need a die shrink to get the power down some. Sadly it seems like AMD is having a "netburst" of their own... I personally like they use higher graphics settings. It shows the actual effect the processor will have on your workload. The other thing that I've seen mentioned before is the workload between running 640 x 480 low settings and full resolution high settings can change significantly on the CPU side. Even though they are GPU limited some of the settings can require more cpu power to handle the added code. Using AA might be a bit much though. |
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I'm glad that I didn't wait for Bulldozer.
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May be a bit premature of me to say, but I'm ready as hell to jump ship and just get me an i5 2500K setup with a new mobo for $350.
![]() I've been kind of waiting to see what we'd see with Bulldozer, and I'm seriously underwhelmed. So do you guys think I should switch?
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